Bill R

I was wondering what some of your local Ford dealers are
charging for extra (PATS) keys? I have been hearing horror
stories about people that have lost one key and have had to
go to a dealer to get one and get it programmed. They were
charged over $150 (U.S.).

I checked with my local dealer and they charge $22 (after a
12 percent discount coupon on their web site) for a blank
key and they key it for free (you do have to program it
yourself but that takes all of about 30 seconds provided
that you have two valid keys).

I am also seeing a lot of PATS keys being sold on eBay and
other sites. Had anyone that bought them had any problems?
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Bill R

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Henri

I purchased extra keys from a local hardware store and they cut them for me
$15, I programmed them.
Here in Canada I have seen PATS keys at Canadian Tire and Wal-Mart is
starting to carry them. Also at Princess Auto I picked up 2 extra remotes on
sale for $14.00 each.


"Bill R" <not_for_spam_brosen@iglou.com> wrote in message
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I was wondering what some of your local Ford dealers are
charging for extra (PATS) keys? I have been hearing horror
stories about people that have lost one key and have had to
go to a dealer to get one and get it programmed. They were
charged over $150 (U.S.).

I checked with my local dealer and they charge $22 (after a
12 percent discount coupon on their web site) for a blank
key and they key it for free (you do have to program it
yourself but that takes all of about 30 seconds provided
that you have two valid keys).

I am also seeing a lot of PATS keys being sold on eBay and
other sites. Had anyone that bought them had any problems?
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Bill R

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Craig

"Bill R" wrote...

>I was wondering what some of your local Ford dealers are charging for extra
>(PATS) keys? I have been hearing horror stories about people that have
>lost one key and have had to go to a dealer to get one and get it
>programmed. They were charged over $150 (U.S.).
>
> I checked with my local dealer and they charge $22 (after a 12 percent
> discount coupon on their web site) for a blank key and they key it for
> free (you do have to program it yourself but that takes all of about 30
> seconds provided that you have two valid keys).

I believe that both prices above are in the right ballpark.

> I am also seeing a lot of PATS keys being sold on eBay and other sites.
> Had anyone that bought them had any problems?

I bought two keys on eBay, had them cut locally and programmed them myself
with no problem. Now I see that my local ACE hardware store sells the PATS
blanks so if I did it again, I'd just buy from them. I also believe that
when getting a new car with PATS keys that the owner should have a spare
(3rd) key made so that in event of a loss, there'd still be two keys
available for user-programming.

Craig

Dave Gower

"Craig" <wpyr@REMOVEMEworldnet.att.net> wrote

....> when getting a new car with PATS keys that the owner should have a
spare
> (3rd) key made so that in event of a loss, there'd still be two keys
> available for user-programming.

Another idea is to get just the key portion cut, which allows you to get in
the door. I keep this in my wallet, which saves my butt at least once a year
since I've never lost a key in 4 1/2 decades of driving but I do
occasionally lock a key inside. If my wallet got stolen a thief could not
start the car.

Craig

"Dave Gower" <davegow.removethis.@magma.ca> wrote...
>

> "Craig" <wpyr@REMOVEMEworldnet.att.net> wrote
>
> ...> when getting a new car with PATS keys that the owner should have a
> spare
>> (3rd) key made so that in event of a loss, there'd still be two keys
>> available for user-programming.
>
> Another idea is to get just the key portion cut, which allows you to get
> in the door. I keep this in my wallet,

Neat. I keep a non-starting key in my wallet, too.

Craig

Bill R

Dave Gower wrote:
> "Craig" <wpyr@REMOVEMEworldnet.att.net> wrote
>
> ...> when getting a new car with PATS keys that the owner should have a
> spare
>
>>(3rd) key made so that in event of a loss, there'd still be two keys
>>available for user-programming.
>
>
> Another idea is to get just the key portion cut, which allows you to get in
> the door. I keep this in my wallet, which saves my butt at least once a year
> since I've never lost a key in 4 1/2 decades of driving but I do
> occasionally lock a key inside. If my wallet got stolen a thief could not
> start the car.
>
>


I need some clarification. Does this mean that ANYONE that
buys a key cut for a Focus can get into my car and steal the
packages out of it while I am parked at a shopping mall? Or
are all key cuts car specific (I have never seen another
Focus owner's key)? Won't the alarm go off if you don't use
a programmed key?
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Craig

"Bill R" <notforspambrosen@iglou.com> wrote..

> Dave Gower wrote:
>> "Craig" <wpyr@REMOVEMEworldnet.att.net> wrote
>>
>> ...> when getting a new car with PATS keys that the owner should have a
>> spare
>>
>>>(3rd) key made so that in event of a loss, there'd still be two keys
>>>available for user-programming.
>>
>>
>> Another idea is to get just the key portion cut, which allows you to get
>> in the door. I keep this in my wallet, which saves my butt at least once
>> a year since I've never lost a key in 4 1/2 decades of driving but I do
>> occasionally lock a key inside. If my wallet got stolen a thief could not
>> start the car.
>
>
> I need some clarification. Does this mean that ANYONE that buys a key cut
> for a Focus can get into my car and steal the packages out of it while I
> am parked at a shopping mall? Or are all key cuts car specific (I have
> never seen another Focus owner's key)?

The key would have to be cut for your lock just like for older cars.

>Won't the alarm go off if you don't use a programmed key?

No. It'll unlock the doors and trunk just fine but won't be able to start
the engine. I'm not sure what it takes to set off the alarm.

Craig

Dave Gower

"Bill R" <notforspambrosen@iglou.com> wrote

> I need some clarification. Does this mean that ANYONE that buys a key cut
> for a Focus can get into my car and steal the packages out of it while I
> am parked at a shopping mall? Or are all key cuts car specific (I have
> never seen another Focus owner's key)?

Yes, they are specific, just like all other car lines. And my alarm has
never gone off.

Bill R

Craig wrote:
> "Bill R" <notforspambrosen@iglou.com> wrote..
>>
>>I need some clarification. Does this mean that ANYONE that buys a key cut
>>for a Focus can get into my car and steal the packages out of it while I
>>am parked at a shopping mall? Or are all key cuts car specific (I have
>>never seen another Focus owner's key)?
>
>
> The key would have to be cut for your lock just like for older cars.
>
>
>> Won't the alarm go off if you don't use a programmed key?
>
>
> No. It'll unlock the doors and trunk just fine but won't be able to start
> the engine. I'm not sure what it takes to set off the alarm.
>
> Craig
>


Thanks Craig. I just want to verify that others could not
get into my car.

I did read my owners manual and talked to my dealer.
According to them the alarm will only go off if entry is
attempted without a key (broken window, then opening the
door). Also, my dealer HIGHLY recommends that ALL keys be
programmed in case you lose your regular set of keys and are
stuck someplace. As mentioned here, a non programed key
(carried in your billfold) would allow you to open the door
but it would not allow you to drive home. Lost keys can be
a potential problem but it is highly unlikely that a person
that found the keys would know which Ford car they belonged
to (unless your name and address were on your key chain).
My neighbor (he is a Policeman) has said that they have
picked up people attempting to break into cars and some of
them had over 100 keys on them or in their car.
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Bill R.

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Neill Massello

Bill R <not_for_spam_brosen@iglou.com> wrote:

> I checked with my local dealer and they charge $22 (after a
> 12 percent discount coupon on their web site) for a blank
> key and they key it for free (you do have to program it
> yourself but that takes all of about 30 seconds provided
> that you have two valid keys).

It should be noted that the car is programmed to recognize the codes
embedded in the keys, not the other way around.