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Old 01-05-2010, 17:00   #1 (permalink)
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confused starting issue on 84 4x4 5spd 2.9

Electrical problem
1984 Ford Ranger 6 cyl Four Wheel Drive Manual 200000 miles

i just recently had my truck start running really rough and kinda chugging.. just bought it a month ago so i figured i would check into all the usual probs.. spark , timing, fuel, and wow.. did i find probs

to start the battery was not grounded at all except for a little 12-14 ga wire grounded to the body, one of the spark wires had been almost cut in half and fixed with electricians tape. the spark plugs were all mismatched 3ngk 2bosch and one accel, the fuel filter had been punched through with a nail.. carb'stop plate was cracked, the feedback solenoid was leaking as were the spacer gaskets. the distributor had been advanced to the piont that the #1 prong was in the #4 spot, wires jsut changed around but still right order, distributor cap gouged to hell on the inside, rotor very worn looking, (gee wonder why) but spindle on distrubutor still fine.. not bent or blown..

but the truck ran fine like this until something went wrong

so after finding all this i called up my good friends at autozone and several hundred dollars later i have put in a new carb, new coil, new cap, new rotor, new wires, new bosch +4 plugs, new fuel filter, new gaskets, new alternator (just for giggles), and running a new optima gel batt, pulled and reset distributor right and grounded with new wires to block and ran new wire to starter as they do tend to wear and this one showed heat damage.

now after i put all this in it ran fine for about 3 days, twice the power and quicer start, and then it just quit

now i know that just dont happen but i got that kinda luck.. so i started playing with it.. cranked over hard.. hesitated/turned over real slow.. kinda seemed like it was making engine cough or sputter.. so turned on ignition and hooked up a remote start switch to solenoid and checked under hood.now when it was turning over every second slow turn of the engine the "cough" was the engine actually seeming to turn backwards a bit like it was over compressing or something similar.. now here is where it got really weird.. i shut off ignition.. played with a few connections and hit remote again and thing turned over like nothing! hot dog.. it works again.. musta been a loose connection.. button up air cleaner and all that kinda stuff and hop in, turn key, nada.. groan.. groan.*cough*.. groan.. so hook up remote switch again with ignition on.. same effect.. now turn ignition off and hit switch again.. turns like a dream agian..?!?!?!? turn ignition on.. chug chug cough..

even with a boost or fresh off charger will not turn over with ignition on but can still do fine with just its power with ignition off

any thoughts to this bit of wacky?
thanx in advance
Geoff
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Old 01-05-2010, 20:31   #2 (permalink)
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Re: starting issue on 84 4x4 5spd 2.9

Sounds like the timing could be advanced. Is it only with the ignition to the engine that the problem occurs?
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