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Old 10-22-2004, 23:56   #1 (permalink)
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Indy V8's Race 1 - Thoughts (Possible Spoiler)

Hmm I don't know if I really liked that race...

Marcos did a great job, but don't know if he had the speed to take down Skaife if he didn't loose it. Seems the old and questionable HRT car still has the speed!

Marcos's burst at Rick Kelly - deserved? Maybe, he did say he slowed down to let Rick pass (and why wouldn't he want to un-lap himself?) but surely Rick has the reason to be there?

Who else thinks Skaife should have yielded to Ambrose in the first corner? Ambrose had racing line, Skaife had way too much speed... Kinda like the Brad Jones Bathurst thing all over again..

Big loser of the day - Russell Ingall. Driver who should have stayed in bed? Rick Kelly.

Wasn't much of a race, except for the carnage, too narrow, too short, no pitstops, I didn't think it too great...

That witches hat got mangled though! LOL..

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Old 10-23-2004, 00:05   #2 (permalink)
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Pos Car Entrant Driver Vehicle Laps Race Time Fastest Lap Fastest Time
1 1 Pirtek Racing Marcos Ambrose Ford Falcon BA 22 41:36.8228 6 1:52.5125
2 51 Kmart Racing Team Greg Murphy Holden Commodore VY 22 41:38.6592 9 1:52.4718
3 22 Holden Racing Team Todd Kelly Holden Commodore VY 22 41:41.1432 10 1:52.4172
4 6 Ford Performance Racing Craig Lowndes Ford Falcon BA 22 41:44.3090 10 1:52.1764
5 10 Larkham Orrcon Racing Jason Bargwanna Ford Falcon BA 22 41:51.5741 9 1:53.2135
6 44 Team Dynamic/dodo/Alphawest Simon Wills Holden Commodore VY 22 42:02.1275 9 1:53.0961
7 50 PWR Performance Products Jason Bright Holden Commodore VY 22 42:07.2594 9 1:53.5573
8 888 Team Betta Electrical Max Wilson Ford Falcon BA 22 42:07.8009 5 1:53.6001
9 3 Tasman Motorsport Jason Richards Holden Commodore VY 22 42:08.1245 7 1:53.1726
10 33 Repco Valvoline Cummins Team Cameron McConville Holden Commodore VY 22 42:08.6691 7 1:53.3779
11 17 Shell Helix Racing Steven Johnson Ford Falcon BA 22 42:12.7737 16 1:53.8008
12 88 Team Betta Electrical Paul Radisich Ford Falcon BA 22 42:14.0892 6 1:53.2331
13 21 OzEmail Team/Brad Jones Racing Brad Jones Ford Falcon BA 22 42:18.2002 6 1:53.2645
14 12 OzEmail Team/Brad Jones Racing John Bowe Ford Falcon BA 22 42:19.7947 8 1:53.7145
15 5 Ford Performance Racing Glenn Seton Ford Falcon BA 22 42:20.3656 19 1:53.4405
16 20 Larkham Orrcon Racing Mark Winterbottom Ford Falcon BA 22 42:29.2758 21 1:54.3489
17 75 Toll Racing Anthony Tratt Holden Commodore VY 22 42:31.6689 9 1:53.9411
18 31 Steve Ellery Racing Steve Ellery Ford Falcon BA 22 42:54.8632 5 1:53.3242
19 23 WPS John McIntyre Ford Falcon BA 22 43:01.1190 9 1:54.9768
20 29 Sirromet - Life Style Wine Paul Morris Holden Commodore VY 22 43:31.7738 14 1:53.9729
21 15 Kmart Racing Team Rick Kelly Holden Commodore VY 21 41:37.2785 11 1:52.6302
22 34 Repco Valvoline Cummins Team Garth Tander Holden Commodore VY 21 41:43.9864 16 1:53.1431
23 16 PWR Performance Products Paul Weel Holden Commodore VY 21 42:05.7812 3 1:53.9811
24 7 Castrol Perkins Motorsport Tony Longhurst Holden Commodore VX 21 42:10.7672 9 1:54.2689
25 2 Holden Racing Team Mark Skaife Holden Commodore VY 21 42:24.1446 6 1:52.4372
26 9 Caltex Havoline Race Team Russell Ingall Ford Falcon BA 21 42:59.6283 8 1:52.4112
DNF 18 Shell Helix Racing Warren Luff Ford Falcon BA 19 36:43.0950 3 1:53.9720
DNF 11 Castrol Perkins Motorsport Steven Richards Holden Commodore VY 15 31:16.6491 5 1:52.2520
DNF 8 Castrol Perkins Motorsport Paul Dumbrell Holden Commodore VY 15 31:50.5049 15 1:52.6874
DNF 021 Team Kiwi Racing Craig Baird Holden Commodore VY 5 9:59.1767 4 1:55.4762
DNF 45 Team Dynamic/dodo/Alphawest Dale Brede Holden Commodore VY
DNF 48 WPS Alex Yoong Ford Falcon BA



Radisich must of had a good race
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Old 10-23-2004, 00:07   #3 (permalink)
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Um...I think perhaps Skaife should have yeilded, the whole thing unfolded by Skaife going waaay too hot under brakes to try and beat marcos, in the end skaife over cooked it and possibly if marcos wasnt there would have straight lined the chicane anyways, but may have even looped it on himself. That's racing, typical indy first corner really.

You couldn't really see the incident between Ingall and Kelly, but I would guess if what Rick says is true in that Ingall turned over the front of his car then Ingall could take some blame for it. Again just a typical indy first corner.

Rick actually handled his post race interview quite well....maybe he is starting to learn how not to be a tool...

In parts Skaife had Ambrose's measure, and if Ambrose didn't pass him at around the time Skaife spun, I would suggest Ambrose would not have passed Skaife and just stuck behind him for the championship points.
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Guys what happened to Ingall ???? :(
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Ingall hit a wall. It was enough to bring him into the pits. He finished 26. I was hoping Bright would have a bad day. Oh well there is tomorrow. Here is the championship for the main drivers

V8 SUPERCARS CHAMPIONSHIP 2004
AFTER ROUND 11 RACE 1

Pos Driver Points Lead Vehicle Model Car Team

1 Marcos Ambrose 1,763 - FORD BA 1 STONE BROTHERS RACING
2 Jason Bright 1,687 - 76 HOLDEN VY 50 PAUL WHEEL RACING
3 Rick Kelly 1,598 - 165 HOLDEN VY 15 K-MART RACING TEAM
4 Greg Muphy 1,569 - 194 HOLDEN VY 51 K-MART RACING TEAM
5 Russel Ingall 1,537 - 226 FORD BA 9 STONE BROTHERS RACING
6 Steven Richards 1,521 - 242 HOLDEN VY 11 CASTROL PERKINS RACING
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RICK KELLYS Contract with the V8 supercars should be TERMINATED IMMEDIATLY. He is s sniffling little SH!T head. RICK PI55 OFF
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More importantly, Ingall either turned into Rick Kelly or Rick Kelly hit him going into turn 1 of the race. Thats the main reason why he was so far back. That and clipping a wall and hitting a few Holdens up the bum...
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Did Rick Kelly put Ingall to the wall ?????
Feel really sorry for Ingall. :(
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my reply was too late... i got the pic now !!! F^&^%$ Kelly
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RICK KELLYS Contract with the V8 supercars should be TERMINATED IMMEDIATLY. He is s sniffling little SH!T head. RICK PI55 OFF
Aw c'mon - for once he didn't do much wrong at all - there was no room in the first corner (maybe they should have the start/finish line in a different part of the track?). And as said earlier he handled himself pretty well after Ambrose's outburst at the end.
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