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Old 06-08-2002, 04:52   #1 (permalink)
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Lowndes' Wheel Nuts

Correct me if im wrong but at the start of the last years V8 series didnt gibson motorsport introduce a specialised wheel nut that would have increased pit stops by like 1-2 seconds or something, but it was knocked back and they werent allowed to use it.

Now i see HRT have done the same and they are allowed to use theres and therefore the other Holden teams are using the same nuts, whats the deal?
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The HRT version was not in conflict with the rules, the Gibson motorsport version was, I have posted the rule excerpt once before along with why each was allowed and denied, I will try and find it again for you
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Re: Lowndes' Wheel Nuts

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Correct me if im wrong but at the start of the last years V8 series didnt gibson motorsport introduce a specialised wheel nut that would have increased pit stops by like 1-2 seconds or something, but it was knocked back and they werent allowed to use it.

Now i see HRT have done the same and they are allowed to use theres and therefore the other Holden teams are using the same nuts, whats the deal?
You mean decrease don't you?

What Gibson did was make the wheel nut part of the wheel. What HRT have done is make the nut held by the gun in one motion. You can remove either of the elements. None are attached
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You are right there Pete, there was a small difference in the two designs though.
Im trying to remember here what it was, something to do with the nut acctually stayed in the gun by a mechanical means on the GMS version?
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Re: Re: Lowndes' Wheel Nuts

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What Gibson did was make the wheel nut part of the wheel.
HSE2 is spot on there, damn memory is fading on me
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"Where centrelock wheel fixing (single wheel nut) is used, it is not permitted for the centrelock nut to be retained in either the wheel or the wheel gun; the nut must be fully detached from the replacement wheel while it is being fitted to a car during any wheel changing operation."

that clearly shows how the wheel nuts as used by HRT are legal, and is not bending the rules. This is because the GMS version retained the nut inside the wheel, whereas the HRT version does not retain the wheelnut in the wheel, or within the gun.
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Can someone tell me why this is not uniform across the whole grid. They all use the same refuelling rigs so why don't they use the same rattle guns.
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Paul ( w@nker ) Morris is using a similar device in Canberra and for the rest of the season.
Why don't Ford teams come up with something similar?
The Ford teams are absolutely stupid.
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just looking at the shell team pitting it seems they have a similar setup hard to tell, but the nuts never left the guns
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It did, but they didn't look as comfortable using it as HRT are
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