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V8 Brutes Query....

Whats with the V8Brutes..???
I know the Falcons keep winning, but i heard that the Commodores are restricted in revs or something..??? Is this right, or some crap that a Holden person has come up with to explain the SS's poor performance..???

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I'm not sure, but the Holdens have to be basically stock where the Fords are allowed head work and a cam change. So, the Holden guys are right by saying the Falcon utes are getting a helping hand.

Now, how is that different from Production (cough cough) Racing series?

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I think the rev limiter is set at 5500rpm on the Commodore. But I don't see how extra revs would bridge the gap by that much.
They both run free flow exhausts/ filter/ modified computer. And that's not taking into consideration that it's 5.0l vs 5.7l. So they aren't realy dissadvantaged.

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I think, that it may be the way the two motors produce their power, or torque.

As the Ford makes better low down torque, it is better around the track.

Only guessing guys.

But, at Oran Park, I saw a Ford drag a Commodore down the straight, and the Ford pulled away from it. (I was so proud)

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I would have thought having the extra gear would have made a difference too & even the indepent rear a little
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Its a case of look no further then the DRIVERS.

The cars are very evenly matched but the real difference comes from the drivers them selfs look at the top 10 drivers 8 or so are in fords.
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i heard something on speedweek that all the motors come out of the same shop and they all run motec's with verry similar state of tune only cought the tail end of the story but
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Holdens will have thier Rev limit raised by 150rpm from the Winton round on.

They do supposedly make identical power but in different ways.

The Holdens actually ran a restrictor plate on the intake until the Fords got the new cam.
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Not quite correct there Brendan.

From http://www.v8brutes.com/
The Commodores have been allowed a 120 rpm increase in maximum engine revs to 5500 for this weekend and, although only a small power boost, it is expected to show a marked improvement in lap times under the V8 BRute Series performance parity control rules.
There's a good forum over there too and most of the drivers post there as well.

You know, somebody actually complimented me on my driving today. They left a little note on the windscreen. It said, 'Parking Fine.'So that was nice.

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post #10 of 11 (permalink) Old 06-24-02, 07:04 AM
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There was a story somewhere.

But I do no there are a heap of mods done to each car and they are very far from standard.

Both utes Produce around 250kws each, via mechanical & ems changes.

I'll try find the story and post back!

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