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post #1 of 26 (permalink) Old 05-22-03, 12:19 AM Thread Starter
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Thumbs down About the BA GT Versus HSV Clubsport.

About the FPV GT vs HSV Clubsport. Someones head needs to roll. How did a 1660kg alloy engined commy end up with bigger (330mm) front brakes than the 325mm on the 1835kg, 290kw heavier blocked GT? Yeh, you can option up the brakes, ( I think $6000 for Brembo's)- but that aint a good enough answer. Anyone got a better one?
Surely the blokes in marketing (Ford) would have known these cars were to be tested 1 on 1. It doesn't take a genius to realise the heavier car is gonna need the bigger brakes. A slightly bigger disc surely couldn't hurt the pocket that much could it?

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But then again, the V Why? isn't a engineered as the BA. It costs more to produce the BA than the VY.

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At least the BA's havent got the holdens engine probs.They are blowing up left,right and center over here(NZ).Rather have a reliable slightly slower car that a fragile faster one.
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im not gonna get into the fords are better than holdens rant but all i will say is that maybe the disc surface area is important but the efficiency of the brakes themselves needs to be factored in aswell

i dunno im just guessing...

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There is probably a good explanation. However from my experiences and others that I have talked to, the brakes on the Falcons have always been a better quality than that on the commo. Maybe they are not needed?

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Who say's you need to have 330mm exactly the only real reason I can see is a marketing ploy,if the 325mm on the falc work good enough then so be it unless your using the car for track work,then maybe the extra size is justified but if not , having the bigger size is just a way off saying mine's bigger than your's.

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330mm rotor with a pad that is 20cm2 will not be as good as a 325mm rotor with a pad that is 21cm2. Don't know the exact dimensions of the Holden/Ford pads, just illustrating a point. As FM would know, size doesn't always matter!


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Mate, I think you have a size issue you need to deal with.

Drive both cars, and then tell me the brakes are inadequate!!!

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Brakes GT v VY clubbie

Motor mag. May 2003 page 48. "The GT's standard break set-up, which, as with the clubsport was developed with help from supplier PBR, is good, but not quite up to the standards of the HSV when it comes to repeatable stopping power. Blame the GT's weight and smaller swept area of the rotors......."
Since the Clubbie was released earlier, the GT is the bigger/heavier car and PBR are the supplier, I have to ask myself, How/why did marketing release the GT (which was to be tested against the clubbie) with smaller discs. Both Ford and GM allow for upgrades at around $6000 but my point is how does the heavier and more powerful car get the smaller brakes!
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