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Old 08-23-2004, 01:25   #1 (permalink)
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After hearing a little whisper about the SS 80mm T/Body knocking off bottom end torque I decided to go and buy a new standard factory one, mate it up with a 76mm helix and take all the 80mm stuff off. I gave it a whirl, MUCH MORE LOW DOWN RESPONSIVENESS . I havn't had time to get it out on the open road as yet but through 1st, 2nd, 3rd, definately more response. I think that for the cost of the 80mm and the few kw they give at the high end (at a now obvious cost to the bottom end) definately much better off with the factory job Anybody else had a similiar experience
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So now Doc, you just have the standard T/B with the smaller 76mm helix block?

I have that on my ute I did notice a small difference after installation, more so from lower revs, similar to the accelerator already being slightly depressed before your foot actually presses it
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So now Doc, you just have the standard T/B with the smaller 76mm helix block?

I have that on my ute I did notice a small difference after installation, more so from lower revs, similar to the accelerator already being slightly depressed before your foot actually presses it
Yeah it's an interesting one Rodderz, did you ever try the 80mm T/Body on the ute?
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Yeah it's an interesting one Rodderz, did you ever try the 80mm T/Body on the ute?
No i've always had the stock one, though I believe Rod and Mark have done both dyno and track testing, they could elaborate further. Pretty sure the 80mm t/b gave 4.9rwkw's over stock and a marginal increase in mph on the strip but not sure on the various spacers
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Your dead right mate....
So whos selling this stuff to you blokes? did they have a mask & gun?. LOL
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No i've always had the stock one, though I believe Rod and Mark have done both dyno and track testing, they could elaborate further. Pretty sure the 80mm t/b gave 4.9rwkw's over stock and a marginal increase in mph on the strip but not sure on the various spacers
For the price of them i still dont think they're worth it.
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Your dead right mate....
So whos selling this stuff to you blokes? did they have a mask & gun?. LOL
I agree I think the 80 ml throttle body is an expensive paper weight, you may need this when the engine is capable of turning more revs, but not with bolt ons

I run standard throttle body & BPT spacer & have found this to be good value.
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Just got back from a good long open road run and the standard T/Body has definately bought more life back to the car in the low and mid range at all speeds.
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An 80mm TB is waaay to big for a 5.4.
80mm is almost 1400cfm, a 5.4 revving to 6000rpm only needs approx 600cfm.
A 70mm TB would likely improve torque further, and will still allow it to rev to over 7000rpm, it will go bang before that anyway.

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aint nothing wrong with them they are bit expensive, but so is $3k for a zorst.
i believe every mod complaiments each other look Ray dosn't use a helix plate and he runs simuliar times to us...
on i open road its funny thats were i noticed most increase, we had instant time drop back to back testing at Calder on the same night useing 2 different drivers..i borrowed rods for a week then i said get me one...i know for a fact on Rods pursuit 4.9kw gain back to back testing same day...
there have been plenty of poeple having trouble setting these up, i wonder if this might have something to do with it!!
never had a problem with mine from the day it went on, and the SS 80 mm T/B made from Billet alloy must be the best quality built mod on my ute..
and i will add the more cold air these engines get, the more they love to go as we worked out when Rod went 12.62 @110 mph..
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