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BAXR8 · 08-12-2002, 01:38

Ford or should I say Prodrive-Tickford will stroke the 5.4 to 5.7 to bring back the 351 badge

IPhido · 08-12-2002, 01:41

I don't belive the V10 is much heavier than the V8. I would reason within ~20kg.. Certainly possible.

The 5.4L Can always get a supercharger strapped onto it.

If Holden does ship in the 7.0L block for its premium car. Ford could definately counter with a DOHC multivalve 5.8L or 6.8L V10. Or even the 6.8L with a supercharger fitted.

as I can see it there is room to grow for both companies.

God bless the day when Holdens and Ford are rolling around streets with 7.0L V8's from lemans and multivalve 6.8L V10's.

chevypower · 08-12-2002, 02:33

The 4.6 and 5.4 are the same engines, have been around for a few years in the States, but only the Mustang Cobra was alloy with DOHC. WHich means Australia is the only place to get an all-alloy DOHC 5.4 The Lincoln Navigoator is DOHC 5.4 with alloy head, but cast iron block. The 6.8 V10 is a 5.4 V8 with two added cylinders. We don't even get that engine in our F-series trucks here, so they probably wont put it in our cars either. Would be nice

XT500 · 08-12-2002, 02:54

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Originally posted by Irish
They could bore out the Windsor to 5.8 (Old GT's before the cleaveland ran 5.8 litre windsors) so i dont see why they wouldn't be able to do it with this new engine.

Just for the record, the 351 windsors had a longer stroke than the 302s and an inch (??) higher deck height.

302w 4" bore, 3" stroke
351w 4" bore, 3.5" stroke

and on that note, the Clevland engines were the same bore and stroke to their Windsor countaparts, but the 302 had the same deck height as the 351, ie also had longer rods.
I'm not trying to contradict you Irish, but this thread seems to be very specific towards bore and stroke

If we are getting an alloy 5.4 DOHC based V8, then the entire engine design will need to be altered to account for the difference in material characteristics. eg Alloy blocks need to be thicker (for strength). They also have different casting and machining characteristics so different processes will need to be used to produce the engines. So if the whole engine is getting an alloy makeover, what's the point in keeping a measly dimension? Tradition? 4.6 and 5.4s aren't old enough to bother with that. Might as well increase the potential of the engine while it's getting the makeover, right?

chevypower · 08-12-2002, 07:48

Wouldn't Ford use the same alloy block as the existing 4.6 with a longer stroke?

FPRXR-6 · 08-12-2002, 11:22

I don't think that the new 5.4 is alloy but i could be wrong

The Stylist · 08-13-2002, 00:43

For those of you that think there might be a V10, wipe those thoughts right out of your minds.

It will not happen in the BA's lifespan.

TOX|C · 08-13-2002, 01:42

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Originally posted by The Fonz
Anyway the ci mark does not mean much anymore due to the metric system thus the 351 may mean 351kw and be a be a 351 GT!

:s3 :s3 :s3 :s3 The 2003 351kw GT! :s3 :s3 :s3 :s3

Beasty!!!!!

Cobra · 08-13-2002, 01:54

I don't care about a V10 ATMO, all I want to know is if the 5.4L is all-alloy like the GT40 concept motor, or its cast Iron, or even cast iron block with alloy head.

For the Record the Cobra R's 5.4L DOHC from the Lincoln Navigator is 5409cc or 330ci.

**[V8]Ford Power** · 08-13-2002, 03:36

Nah... some of you guys have it a little wrong. ALL the 5.4L modular fords use an iron block. The 4.6 has an alloy block. This is one of the reasons the 4.6L was chosen to power the Bud Mustang - less weight over the front wheels.

Why do we need a bigger motor than the 5.4 DOHC? Once that sucker goes it it will be hammer time anyway. Ford USA has a long history of naming cars by their brake horsepower rather than their cubes... GT 350 and GT 500 anyone?? Clevo rocks but we need to move forward not backwards.