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Old 12-08-2004, 03:28   #1 (permalink)
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How quick should a GT/GT-P be really?

It is a fact that the GT and GT-P both "classic" and Mk2 are not particually quick over the 400m.
A good driver might get a 13.8x on a good day.
It is also a fact that there is a significant amount of torque limiting implemented into the ECU.

I would be VERY interested to find out how quick an otherwise standard, that is NO mods including airfilter or wheels/tyres, GT or GT-P would be if the torque limiting were removed with the 'BOSSedit'. No other changes allowed.

I suspect one of the major reasons for the limiting in to reduce the load on the auto box that was delayed for many months.

It would be interesting to see if by removal of the torque limiting (something HSV don't seem to do) whether the FPV products are more competitive in this arena.

Anyone have any info on this e.g. CAPA/APS/Herrod/SCT etc. have you done it during beta testing?
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Re: How quick should a GT/GT-P be really?

Based on power/weight/torque/gearing calculations.. I'd expect the BA GT Manual to do a 13.4 on a perfect run, perfect day, perfect driving.

BAII GT with the 6-speed only drops a tenth.. 13.3.

Would be nice if people could get these times out of stock GT's. Those kind of times would actually bring the fight closer to HSV.
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Old 12-08-2004, 21:28   #3 (permalink)
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Re: How quick should a GT/GT-P be really?

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It is a fact that the GT and GT-P both "classic" and Mk2 are not particually quick over the 400m.
A good driver might get a 13.8x on a good day.
It is also a fact that there is a significant amount of torque limiting implemented into the ECU.

I would be VERY interested to find out how quick an otherwise standard, that is NO mods including airfilter or wheels/tyres, GT or GT-P would be if the torque limiting were removed with the 'BOSSedit'. No other changes allowed.

I suspect one of the major reasons for the limiting in to reduce the load on the auto box that was delayed for many months.

It would be interesting to see if by removal of the torque limiting (something HSV don't seem to do) whether the FPV products are more competitive in this arena.

Anyone have any info on this e.g. CAPA/APS/Herrod/SCT etc. have you done it during beta testing?
A few or us here have run 13.7's completely stock.I only ran it once in stock form and the first run was a 13.72.I found it with the Boss motor u really have to drive the thing around for a while to get used to it's power curves and the motors characteristics.But this new 6 litre is going to be a weapon straight off the showroom floor
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Re: How quick should a GT/GT-P be really?

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A few or us here have run 13.7's completely stock.I only ran it once in stock form and the first run was a 13.72.I found it with the Boss motor u really have to drive the thing around for a while to get used to it's power curves and the motors characteristics.But this new 6 litre is going to be a weapon straight off the showroom floor
Alex what did yours dyno standard ?
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Alex what did yours dyno standard ?
229 RWK (manual), i think that figure is about standard thru most of the GT's.
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229 RWK (manual), i think that figure is about standard thru most of the GT's.
Mine was 212 in shootout 8 :(
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Mine was 212 in shootout 8 :(
I wouldn't worry about the Dyno figures u have got a good time considering your launch.Your Mph is pretty good.There is too much to compare in dyno figures i get a headache just looking at all the different claims.U should strap on a G-Tech then u will get a 12 easy.
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Re: How quick should a GT/GT-P be really?

thats a good point about torque reduction, it would be nice to see what an edit will do for it.
the Boss 290 already produces 400nm from 1300rpm, imagine it with out the limiting !!
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Re: How quick should a GT/GT-P be really?

I have always wondered how the Boss would go if it had different bore/stroke, to allow it to rev a bit more. If it had the same rev range as the LS1/LS2, just think how much fatter the power band would be... seems to be a bit narrow as things are now!

Hmm, how to fundamentally change the Boss quickly and easily...
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thats a good point about torque reduction, it would be nice to see what an edit will do for it.
the Boss 290 already produces 400nm from 1300rpm, imagine it with out the limiting !!
I will tell u this, I will be testing mine as soon as the advantage is used on it just so i can see for myself how much of a limit it has on it
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