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Old 01-24-2003, 17:44   #1 (permalink)
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When will we know the weight?

It's great that everything has been released. Power = 290kw. But Weight is always a determining factor, and althought I dont think the cars will be that much heavier, I am still very keen on knowing how much these veicles weigh. I guess it will be in MOTOR or Wheels, which ever comes out first.
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It's gonna be a heavy bastard unfortuately...
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same as XR8+ tinny bit. Could find out exactly but might get in trouble at work!
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You could find out and then we can have a game of guess the weight.!
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same as XR8+ tinny bit. Could find out exactly but might get in trouble at work!
Hey harasn,
Media comments on the XR8 have not been the best so far (earily days however). They appear to blame the weight in general and claim the XR8 is no faster than an XR6T or SS.
I was under the impression that the Xr8 felt and performed quicker than the turbo from all 'non offical' accounts of experience.

Have you driven all of these and what is your thoughts on it all mate?

Sorry this is a little off the topic, however it's relevant to the GT indirectly.
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whats heavier? the 5.6L windsor, or the 5.4L?
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i drove both the xr8 and the ss on the same day.
the ss didn't do much untill it reached 4000rpm and then the grunt started.
the xr8 pulled from 2000rpm and consistent through the whole rev range.
the first gear on the xr8 was unbeleivable.it revved up so quick and just pushed you into the seat.
as for cornering, i don't drive that hard to notice the extra weight pushing you back.
i can't wait to read what critics have to say because i had high expectations of the new xr8 and it delivered, just what i wanted.
but i guess it's upto the critics to decide on the xr8's fate.
i beleive it's a winner no matter what report the car gets.
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As far as XR8 goes Fords ace would be with the Auto being every bit as quick {in some areas}wth its 3:45 diff ratio compared to the manuals 3:23. Am i correct GT Manual uses 3:45?
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How much more does the Auto XR8 weigh over the manual?
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Thoughts

I think you/we will find its the torque curve that determines acceleration.

Most experiences show good low rpm acceleration, pretty much flat across the rpm range in the XR8

However, XR6T and SV8/SS may be more peaky. Buts its going to be the area under the curve that determines overall acceleration, over say the 1/4 mile.

Eg, an XR8 may feel strong off the line, whereas the others dont, however the others increase acceleration as the rpms increase, whereas the XR8 may maintain a constant rate.

Its 0-100 and 1/4 times that are all important in this assessment.

Of course, in the stop start of urban driving the XR8 may have the advantage up to say 50kmph. But then dropping the clutch in an SS at 3500RPM might dispell any of that too...

Id like to see some 1/4 mile times and 0-100 runs from various people. Im still considering GT or SV8?

Im not interested in options, I want minimum weight and maximum power. I think the SV8 will win (If holden can sort out the current LS1 problems). However a 290KW GT might convince me otherwise. We will see. Although of course the $20K price difference buys a lot of LS1 addons...
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