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03-06-2002, 17:32

i was going through previous posts and noticed that you's know a fair bit on sub woofers and amps.

now i want a good set up subs to power my EF, i mainly listen to rap and dance/techno music.

and i can get jaycar equipment at wholesale prices. I know they are not on the level with MTX/FUSION/RF but they are ment to be alright.

anyway i was thinking of having two 12" double magnet jaycar response subs powered but a response 4 x 100w amp.

the basic specs for the subs are:
Power: 250watt RMS
Nom impendance : 4ohms
sensitivity : 86.66dB 1 watt 1 mtr (Ref)
-3dB Frequency (Hz) : 41

and the amp:

variable crossover from 40 - 120Hz at 12dB/oct
power bridged @ 4 ohms : 300WRMS x 2
frequency response : 10Hz to 30Hz +/- dB

i can get the subs for $220 each and the amp $320, and even though the subs are rated at 250WRMS does it matter if you feed 300WRMS into them?

now from your knowledge would this be a good buy??

or would i be better off getting say a $400 15" MA sub and good amp to power it?

my budget is strickly about $750

Bass Crazy · 03-06-2002, 17:47

Hey how ya doing.

I have heard quite a few good reviews on how good the Dual Magnet Jaycars do, especially considering there price.

The amp seem to be a good match for the subs, and this was probably the intention of the designers in the first place.

I personally prefer to supply subs with more then there stated rms, simply because the amp my not always be as efficient under different circumstances.

At the last Car Audio Australia club meet, I did a dB test on the Total Recoil car. He had a single 12", 250WRMS hooked up to a 1400WRMS PPI amp. He managed slightly over 147 dB, which is absolutely huge for a single 12, too bad he fried his sub on the second run. Anyhow, he exceeded the power rating of the sub and got some good results, well for a few seconds anyway.

To answer your question, in my opinion, I would say that the setup you have chosen seems to be pretty well matched up, and has a reasonable price tag as well.

Good Luck.

galapogos01 · 03-06-2002, 18:19

shit bass, what brand was the sub? thats ****ing nuts!

as for the choice of amp, i would go for 2 of the jaycar 2x150s. a guy on caa has them hooked up to his dual coil jaycars and seems to get good results. also, the 2x100 jaycar (which is 1/2 of the 4x100!), which i have 2 of, isnt an overly gutsy amp - the 2x150s are much better - especially for subs.

the only thing is you wont be able to run the amps bridged because of the dual 4 ohm coils of the jaycar.

jamesk · 03-06-2002, 19:15

i listen to the same type of music and use jaycar stuff, the best setup i found was 4 8inch 120wrms subs connected to a 2x150w amp. it has a nice sharp punchy bass like at the nightclubs kind of thing instead of the low rumble shake the car to bits type in the larger ones. it saounds great.
what i did was pair them up, connect them in paralell and run them off each channel, so its running at 230wrms into 2 ohms. the speakers havnt blown up so it seems ok.

Bass Crazy · 03-06-2002, 19:16

jbolger, it was a sub built by Total Recoil themselves. It's available to the public for around $250 if I remember correctly.
I think there also available in 15" :)

03-06-2002, 19:37

na i'm not really after punchy, i want the car to shake!! one night when i was cruzing round the streets of perth i pulled up at the lights next to this low white vr, and i cranked up my stereo and so did he, I COULD FEEL HIS BASS ALL THROUGH MY SEAT!! he must of had like 2 x 1000W 15" subs or something but i have never seen anything so loud and thats what i'm after. obcourse not that powerful. I might get the 4 x 100 and the two doublemagnet 12's like BASS suggested. hopefully they are gonna pump bloody loudly, only thing is that they are sealed enclosure subs so i don't know if that works well with rap/techno

03-06-2002, 19:41

I once had a 18" sub just behind the back seats. That pumped out some bass but I wouldn't recomend 18" because there to big to hard to power and they GET STOLEN EASY...

galapogos01 · 03-06-2002, 19:59

**** me! $250. the RF cost me $300!!

im thinking of getting the old jaycar recoiled there for my brother. i wonder how it'll go once it gets back from their shop... hmm!

jamesk · 03-06-2002, 20:00

ah well that double magnet sub will certainly shake.
i was in jaycar a month ago and they had one on display, he cranked it up so i could hear what its like, it shook everything and i could feel it hitting my stomach. he told me he cant turn it up all the way anymore because last time they did it cracked their front window. definately a good sub. im not sure how much power they were suplying it with though

03-07-2002, 00:18

This doesn't answer your question in any way holdenh8r,
but me and my mate just toasted a pair of 12 inch Jaycar subs and pretty much killed a 12 inch earthquake magma for fun today. Ever seen what a sub looks like working under water? We ran 1500wrms into a 50wrms sub, talk about clipping! We ended up blowing his $800 alpine amp, awesome sight!

we have too much time and money on our hands, we need lives!