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Old 03-12-2005, 00:52   #1 (permalink)
BobTop@gmail.com
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In-the-window antenna, '97 Crown Vic

I have a '97 Crown Vic LX. This is the model that has the car's
antenna part of the defroster layout in the rear window -- the zig zag
at the top.

Anyway, this car came with an aftermarket radio. A JVC KD-G800, if
that makes any difference. The previous owner said that after the new
radio was put in he couldn't get any radio stations in and this
continues to be the case. The CD/MP3 player worked perfectly and
continues to do so. I tried an old whip antenna in the radio and it
brought in stations perfectly.

I was in Best Buy looking at a new radio (Pioneer FH-P5000 double DIN)
and started to talk to the sales guy. He told me that the
glass-mounted antennae are considered a power antenna and they have a
seperate power hook-up which must be attached to the 12 volt lead on
the radio or I won't get any stations. I can almost see the legitimacy
of this but not quite.

When I took the radio out to check for the power antenna wire he
mentioned, I could find no such thing. Was he telling me a story or is
this the case? More importantly, do I have to have a special radio for
this set-up?

Any and all relevant insight is most welcome!!

Thanks,
Bob

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Old 03-12-2005, 00:52   #2 (permalink)
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Re: In-the-window antenna, '97 Crown Vic

On 8 Mar 2005 11:13:31 -0800, BobTop@gmail.com wrote:

>I have a '97 Crown Vic LX. This is the model that has the car's
>antenna part of the defroster layout in the rear window -- the zig zag
>at the top.
>
>Anyway, this car came with an aftermarket radio. A JVC KD-G800, if
>that makes any difference. The previous owner said that after the new
>radio was put in he couldn't get any radio stations in and this
>continues to be the case. The CD/MP3 player worked perfectly and
>continues to do so. I tried an old whip antenna in the radio and it
>brought in stations perfectly.
>
>I was in Best Buy looking at a new radio (Pioneer FH-P5000 double DIN)
>and started to talk to the sales guy. He told me that the
>glass-mounted antennae are considered a power antenna and they have a
>seperate power hook-up which must be attached to the 12 volt lead on
>the radio or I won't get any stations. I can almost see the legitimacy
>of this but not quite.
>
>When I took the radio out to check for the power antenna wire he
>mentioned, I could find no such thing. Was he telling me a story or is
>this the case? More importantly, do I have to have a special radio for
>this set-up?
>
>Any and all relevant insight is most welcome!!
>
>Thanks,
>Bob



was his name jim warman?

the guy is full of crap

buy after market power antenna
run a wires

trhe seperate wire is power ant wire
it is on back of your sterio

hurc ast

hurc ast
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Old 03-12-2005, 00:52   #3 (permalink)
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Re: In-the-window antenna, '97 Crown Vic

I have the same antenna on my '95 Vic. When I got the car, someone had
yanked the head unit. 2 aftermarket units did OK on FM but AM sucked. I
finally found the problem. There IS an amplifier for this antenna. It
lives under the trunk deck. It is possible to connect an antenna line to
run up front to either the lead from the antenna or from the output of the
amplifier. It must go thru the amp, first. The amp must have it's power
line attached. It does not get power from the head unit. My reception
problem was a damaged adapter from the antenna amp to the front of the car.
A new $9 adapter fixed it.

I realize your car is a couple of years newer but I expect it is very
similar. Most of the radios were just controls and a tape player up front,
the innards are in the trunk. My trunk unit is still there but it's not
connected to anything.

You might check Ebay for a Ford Factory service manual - mine paid for
itself in a few months.

Paul



<BobTop@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1110309211.437567.262680@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>I have a '97 Crown Vic LX. This is the model that has the car's
> antenna part of the defroster layout in the rear window -- the zig zag
> at the top.
>
> Anyway, this car came with an aftermarket radio. A JVC KD-G800, if
> that makes any difference. The previous owner said that after the new
> radio was put in he couldn't get any radio stations in and this
> continues to be the case. The CD/MP3 player worked perfectly and
> continues to do so. I tried an old whip antenna in the radio and it
> brought in stations perfectly.
>
> I was in Best Buy looking at a new radio (Pioneer FH-P5000 double DIN)
> and started to talk to the sales guy. He told me that the
> glass-mounted antennae are considered a power antenna and they have a
> seperate power hook-up which must be attached to the 12 volt lead on
> the radio or I won't get any stations. I can almost see the legitimacy
> of this but not quite.
>
> When I took the radio out to check for the power antenna wire he
> mentioned, I could find no such thing. Was he telling me a story or is
> this the case? More importantly, do I have to have a special radio for
> this set-up?
>
> Any and all relevant insight is most welcome!!
>
> Thanks,
> Bob
>



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Old 03-12-2005, 01:41   #4 (permalink)
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Re: In-the-window antenna, '97 Crown Vic

"Paul of Dayton" <F_an...@NOSPAMameritech.net> imparted this bit of
wisdom:

news:1110309211.437567.262680@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>I have the same antenna on my '95 Vic. When I got the car, someone

had
>yanked the head unit. 2 aftermarket units did OK on FM but AM sucked.

I
>finally found the problem. There IS an amplifier for this antenna.

It
>lives under the trunk deck. It is possible to connect an antenna line

to
>run up front to either the lead from the antenna or from the output of

the
>amplifier. It must go thru the amp, first. The amp must have it's

power
>line attached. It does not get power from the head unit. My

reception
>problem was a damaged adapter from the antenna amp to the front of the

car.
>A new $9 adapter fixed it.
>
>I realize your car is a couple of years newer but I expect it is very
>similar. Most of the radios were just controls and a tape player up

front,
>the innards are in the trunk. My trunk unit is still there but it's

not
>connected to anything.
>
>You might check Ebay for a Ford Factory service manual - mine paid for
>itself in a few months.



Thanks for that tip, Paul! I did find what I think to be the location
of the antenna amp in the trunk. In there, on the passenger side,
behind a panel, there is a plug with three wires. There isn't anything
plugged into it, though, so I suspect that's where the amp was removed.
The wire from the antenna assembly there to the front of the car is
still there. There is an antenna plug in the front where the radio is
(and is plugged into the radio).

Do you remember where you got this adapter? It might be the solution
to a very vexing problem!!

I'm also going to be picking up a service manual for the car. I've had
one for every car I've owned and I agree about their value!

Thanks again!

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Old 03-12-2005, 09:43   #5 (permalink)
Paul of Dayton
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Re: In-the-window antenna, '97 Crown Vic

Just about any decent aftermarket hi-fi store should have one. The kit got
actually had two adapters, I needed both to make the connection. I don't
think it was much over $12. Heck, you might even find it at walmart - but
try to go to an independant car audio shop - the small guys need the
business and will probably even offer advice.

Paul

<BobTop@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1110550015.454785.101710@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> "Paul of Dayton" <F_an...@NOSPAMameritech.net> imparted this bit of
> wisdom:
>
> news:1110309211.437567.262680@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>I have the same antenna on my '95 Vic. When I got the car, someone

> had
>>yanked the head unit. 2 aftermarket units did OK on FM but AM sucked.

> I
>>finally found the problem. There IS an amplifier for this antenna.

> It
>>lives under the trunk deck. It is possible to connect an antenna line

> to
>>run up front to either the lead from the antenna or from the output of

> the
>>amplifier. It must go thru the amp, first. The amp must have it's

> power
>>line attached. It does not get power from the head unit. My

> reception
>>problem was a damaged adapter from the antenna amp to the front of the

> car.
>>A new $9 adapter fixed it.
>>
>>I realize your car is a couple of years newer but I expect it is very
>>similar. Most of the radios were just controls and a tape player up

> front,
>>the innards are in the trunk. My trunk unit is still there but it's

> not
>>connected to anything.
>>
>>You might check Ebay for a Ford Factory service manual - mine paid for
>>itself in a few months.

>
>
> Thanks for that tip, Paul! I did find what I think to be the location
> of the antenna amp in the trunk. In there, on the passenger side,
> behind a panel, there is a plug with three wires. There isn't anything
> plugged into it, though, so I suspect that's where the amp was removed.
> The wire from the antenna assembly there to the front of the car is
> still there. There is an antenna plug in the front where the radio is
> (and is plugged into the radio).
>
> Do you remember where you got this adapter? It might be the solution
> to a very vexing problem!!
>
> I'm also going to be picking up a service manual for the car. I've had
> one for every car I've owned and I agree about their value!
>
> Thanks again!
>
>



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