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peter_vod69 · 07-08-2003, 03:15

I have an idea, that with a crow stage 3 cam, port and polish the head, larger valves and tougher springs I can get about 200kw out of my six cylinder falcon.

I have a couple of questions though. Is the Stage 3 cam very driveable for day to day use? I can handle lump, but I don't want an angry bastard of a car that is a pain to drive.

Will it give me the power increase I am after with the other mods in mind? Maybe with the vernier cam gear?

Will the standard 5-speed and clutch be up to the task?

Can I get 200kw to the road easily with the current (standard) open diff?

Will the engine management cope with a stage 3 cam?

Any other ideas/suggestions would be welcomed....

Pete

MickyB · 07-09-2003, 21:17

If I was you I would buy the Crow Stage 3 cam with the adjustable gear and the piggy back chip for the ECU, I was under the impression that they all came together in a pack anyway. With the mods you are talking about along with some decent extractors and exhaust system, I think you should be able to get it up around 200kw at the fly, this would be about 140 rwkw I assume, so with some $$$ its definately attainable.

peter_vod69 · 07-13-2003, 01:28

I have a new dilemma, do I spend the money on Springs and shocks to lower it a little, and improve the stock handling, or do I up the power and make it go like a rocket?

I got a quote of $590 for 4 Low Kings, and 4 KYB shockers...

I could get a cam (at least) for less...

Or a set of extractors for $700 fitted?

XF__UTE · 07-14-2003, 03:40

You could do it easy my AUII (god I miss her) had Pacemakers, 2 1'2" Mercury exhaust witth a modified airbox and K & N panel and that was making 175hp at the wheels (170-175KW) without touching the cam, head or ECU. It was seriously healthy. There are heaps of NA AU XR6's out there running around 200KW they aren't that grumpy either, a XFLOW on the otherhand...

EvilChief · 07-14-2003, 07:50

Crow Stage 3 cams, ported, (dunno what car u got but from EFs onwards) there is no need for new valve springs as teh STDs are freaking stiff as, and new valves ... u cant go "much" larger ... anyway ... u wont expect more than 140kW at treads ... maybe have a think about some twin throttle bodies but much further than 150 or 160 seem impossible without doing some serious wor to the bottom end ... if u really want 200kW save your money and get urself a small turbo ... that will get u there quite easily and it is nice and easy for daily driving ...

JC-XR8 · 07-14-2003, 09:26

$700 on extractors - are they gold plated? Should be able to get pacemakers fitted for around $450.

It depends on what your total budget and cash supply is like as to what to do first. If you are doing a bit here and a bit there, I would go the suspension first (even if it doesn't go quick, at least it will look good), then the extractors and exhaust, then the rest of the stuff you listed.

fordmuscle_83 · 07-15-2003, 01:57

A crossflow on the other hand....................can still easily put out 200kw as it was done in zoom mag by a uni student with quite limited mods. 141rwkw with wolf and 6 individual throttle bodies. It was dynoed at summernats (i think) in the NA 6 class.

XF__UTE · 07-15-2003, 02:36

Your shitting me. That's pretty decent. When I was tossing up between a 351 on gas (XE sedan) and the ute I figured the only way you'd get that sort of horsepower would be a triple 45mm weber setup. What sort of money did the bloke spend.

ebs_4l · 07-15-2003, 07:38

i have installed the crow stg 3 in my eb4l. The kit from crow comes with cam, springs, leads, chip. I also bought the vernier. The cam can be purchased seperately, the kit retails for $1750.

I had dynoed previously @118rwkw, it has pecemakers, unifilter pod, top gun 10mm leads, thermos, 21/2inch stainless system high flow cat,
polished throttle body.

I hevent had dynoed since but will have head ported with bigger valves within 3 wks. I will dyno then.

150-160rwkw isn't too hard to achieve, saloon falcons run magna injectors for more flow, wade cam, chiptorque hp4 (same as the stg 3 crow kit uses) pacemakers, minimal port work as its regulated, std manifolds etc. and they pull 150-160 so i expect to see atleast 150 with porting and valves, ill post results soon....

EvilChief · 07-15-2003, 08:20

AU Falcon: pacemaker extractors, custom CAI, ported head, Stage3 crow, vernier timing gear ... untuned, not chipped, STD auto: 117kW @ treads (/me not overly impressed) - next week custom chip and a good tuning and time advancing ... will see what she can pull then