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TIKFD6 · 02-25-2004, 04:16

I was just wondering if you guys think 200rwhp(150rwkw), is posible without a cam?

John_xr6 · 02-25-2004, 04:24

i think 0 horse power is acheiveable with out a cam...

geez im a smart arse!!!

TIKFD6 · 02-25-2004, 04:29

Smart ass you know what i mean.

Ok i mean an upgraded cam.

John_xr6 · 02-25-2004, 04:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by TIKFD6

Smart ass you know what i mean.

Ok i mean an upgraded cam.

LMAO

Seriously though i suppose you could with the right induction and exhaust but you would still need to work the head a bit and perhaps higher compression. i was looking in the ACL pistons and rings book today and came across the different cc chambers sizes for the pistons for the EA-EF motors. the EA had 15 cc the EB 13 cc and the EF was like 8 cc but i cant 100% remember will look again tomorrow for excact figures. i am assuming you are talking about these style of motors yeah?

younggun · 02-25-2004, 04:48

naturally aspirated I presume??

I think so... but it would be really hard, and you wont get the full use of the power that you would by spending those few hundred dollars...

This is something I came up with quickly starting at 100 RWKW (fairly modest I think):

exhaust including high flow cat, and extractors 15 kw
air intake, and air filter 5 kw
Heads Polished and Ported 20kw (ala jim mock etc..)
Plugs leads etc.. all in top noch 2-3 kw
top quality oil etc.. 2-3 kw
Maybe throttle bodies or something for the last few?? but you would be starting to push for ideas...
Another easier way of course is using a manual gear box will give you an extra 10ish...

these are all really rough figures, I havent really thought it through, i personally think it would be an utter waste of money to attempt 150 with out a cam...

any better ideas (there is probably a heap, its been a long day and im not thinking straight!)

TIKFD6 · 02-25-2004, 04:56

Yes mate naturally aspirated.

Rollin · 02-25-2004, 05:27

(assuming you are talking about you car and not a stock falc) if you get intake and exhaust length tuning perfect, and the computer is set up perfectly too, then MAYBE. assuming your bottom end is spot on, and you have a manual gearbox, and maybe ifyou put on a BBM then that would help too, but i think its a pipe dream

my car has JMM extractors and 2.5" exhaust, with harder valvesprings, more timing, it only runs BP ultimate, pod filter and CAI, surecam, stock EB fuel pressure reg (was running a little rich with XR fuel pressure reg) and it only made about 180hp at the wheels, albiet in the middle of a stinking hot day in full sun.

i dont think it would pick up 20hp if the weather was perfect, but it might pick up a couple if the cam and spark timing was tuned on a dyno - atm they are set to "about there" on the digital dynomometer (ie i set it by hand in the garage) it has about 400hp in the wet though hehe its all over the shop in first and second, no matter what speed i open the taps fully hehe - even spins a little into 3rd on a hard upshift, on 235s with a LSD :s6:

fitting a cam to get power is the logical way to go.

EFJase · 02-25-2004, 05:41

i think it would be pretty hard and expensive.

Get adjustable gear for current cam, good intake, programmable computer, tuned exhaust.. and i think u will still be way off.

let us know if u get there but :)

82falcon · 02-25-2004, 05:45

Just wondering why you dont want to get a cam

sleepwalker · 02-25-2004, 06:40

hmmm
xr8 engine
tuned length extractors
twin system
crane cams lx92 ignition coil
bosch super 4's
sylicon leads
chip
CAI
synthetic oil
bigger throttle body
PULP
herrods air injection
vernier cam gear

whaddya rekkon???