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Old 05-20-2003, 15:59   #1 (permalink)
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Another blown EA head gasket question

Our second car is an EA "88. Only 67000k's ago I got the engine fully recoed. top and bottom end at a cost of $1650. yesterday I saw the dreaded white oil in the filler cap and team and water coming out the exhaust. I am tossing up if I should go ahead and get the head recoed or just cut my losses on it. I am assuming a head job would be about $600, does this sound about right. I only bought our second car a few mths ago (EF wgn).So funds are a bit tight at the moment.
this is the 4th time this has happened to the head in the 7 years we have owned the bitch.
Does that sound a reasonable time to have the head go again 67K's?
I have always kept it serviced regularly oil every 5000k's and fresh coolant and regular flushes.
Is it time to put it out to pasture or would I be better looking for a car for about $3000(danger territory)
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Your gasket should hold for longer than that! What exactly did they do to the head when u got it done?? Sounds too me that the head is warped and wasnt machined flat. Some people seem to have alot of problems with head gaskets... ive been lucky on my EB and havent had this problem yet (240K). Try doing it yourself. I tried it on an old ea i borught and i was surprised how easy it was. If u want the gasket to last longer, take the head to a reconditioner for machining.

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yes I agree with brent79, firstly it should last much longer than that. Have you taken it to the same mechanic all 4 times? as I know a few people that will just put a new gasket in place, without machining the head or even using new bolts!
I would go a reco'd head, buy brand new head bolts, use a good quality gasket and you should be right.

Did the car overheat or did it just start to run rough?
If it overheated you might want to look at getting the radiator side tanks cleaned out
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Well what was done to it was new pistons rings bearings top and bottom, the head was supposedly machined and harder exhaust valves were put in it because it runs on LPG. No it didn't overheat it just happened, first started running rough at idle, then realised what had happened, he used a monotoque gasket in it, so didn't require retension. Pissed off but no point in bitching. I got a 12mth or 50000 k warranty with the reco. Around 3 years ago.
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Do you know if he used new head bolts?
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Have the head pulled off, inspect the water jacket opening for corrosion, if all is well have the head machined, new gasket and 100% importantly new head bolts - almost certainly the head bolts are the root of your problem.

Monotorque gasket is not a bad idea as the TTY head bolts don't like being torqued all the time.

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Yeah thanks for the thoughts, you would think he would have used new bolts considering the price I paid. I'm gonna pull the head next week.
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Hey you are tight on money.Try undoing each head bolt, one at a time and re torqueing them again with some thread grease on the threads and under head of bolt if you can run a tap or longer bolt to clean/clear the thread the better.It costs you nothing, maybe rocker gasget depending on which one you already have. Oh sugestion get a 2" X 1 mtr water pipe to torque unless you are sampson ...
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If you overheat a engine there is a chance that the alloy in the head is no good anymore and will be prone to repeated failures like you are having.

You may need to buy another head and have it reconditioned.
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Here is an article on head bolt torque, you may find interesting.

http://www.loctite.com.au/USERFORUM/forum2.htm
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