EB 5spd

One of my mates decided to do something a little crazy and try and put a 4.0i into his XE. He has a struck a problem that the EB2 motor doesnt fit because the suspension tower curves down to much and the intake manifold is resting on it. He was wondering if a EF,EL manifold will stop this as they curve up about the manifold. Also does anyone know if the standard eb fuel pump will work inline with the fuel system instead of being directly into the tank?


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Bertis

badxr6

no it wont get one from a vl commodore

Freddy

what engine mounts is he using? VL commodores use 2 fuel pumps 1 in the tank to feed the one in front of the tank.

Grant Porter

I can help with this much - the manifolds that suit the el, ef falcons need a computer out of an el, ef. I dont know anything about dimensions, but they will definately bolt on.

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EB 5spd

he is using the standard eb engine mounts. It was rather hard to get them to bolt on. Thinking about trying to get a fuel pump out of a xe xf injected car. That sucks about the manifold. So it wont work at all with the eb computer? Dunno what he is going to do then. What about xh xg do they have this sloaping suspension tower?

Xeclevo51

hi
Look at getting engine mounts for a XG falcon panel van/ute. They run a 4.0L with the EA-ED ECCIV engine manifold. The XG is basically an newer XD shell(Same engine bay). So, using them mounts should make it fit as an XD-XE is the same dimensions engine bay wise regardless of body type. The XH however, runs the same 4.0L but uses the EF front end(Rack- Pinion steer) and is different. To use the EF-EL manifold, the existing engine management will run it, however, you'll need to find something to operate the two stage manifold(EF-EL EECV) Basically, it's probably easier and cheaper to play around with engine mounts.

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FlknTuff

The EF/EL manifold won't need the EF/EL computer if you use the EB throttle body. It should bolt straight on. A mate of mine had an EA with EF manifold and EA throttle body and it used standard EA computer.

EvilChief

the XG and XH ute have a similar suspension setup as the XE, however both are fitted with the 4l EFO engine with log style intake manifold.

maybe raise the engine by the mounts to pull the intake manifold up in hight to clear the towers

might also be worth measuring up in which position the engine in those utes sits

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brooza83

I have completed that exact conversion!!!

You need XG engine mounts. These mounts move the motor off centre (slightly to the right) and lower it slightly. (with standard XE mounts the top of the rocker cover will hit the bonnet on the front edge.

As for the fuel pump the best option is to buy an after market inline fuel pump. Using VL ones creates other problems and EFI pumps out of XE-XF don’t supply enough pressure / flow for the EB six.

Other things that will need to be modified will be the rear gearbox mounts (this will need to be a custom job) I just welded one up using 8mm plate.

The front cross member will also need to be cut down to allow for the harmonic balancer and the alternator on the EB. I just cut the top of it off and plated it with 100mm x 8mm flat.

The radiator will need some playing with to get it right. Really the best and easiest option is to use an XG radiator (I have one for sale if required).

A suggestion if I may add – after my experience!

Wiring............

Originally I ran my car with necessary wiring to run the EB motor and four-speed auto spliced into the XE loom and kept the original dash. The car ran fine this way for about 12 months. After that is soon realised that diagnosis of any problems would be a nightmare. A shortly changed to full XH interior and wiring throughout.

With this in mind it is my strong recommendation you upgrade the dash and all associated wiring for a XG / XH unit. This makes it easy for you and anyone else to diagnose any problems. Also this makes it ALOT easier to do the conversion.

Good luck happy to help with any other Q.

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xgdude

ok just to go off track there for a min........brooza83 did the xh dash fit straight into the ute??
i have an xg and would love to go to an xh style dash!!