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Barefoot · 05-26-2003, 18:02

I was changing cat the other day and the jack slipped and punched a nice dent in the sump, there are no noises, I still have oil pressure so it is not really a problem, however I would like to replace the sump. I have heard that I will need to remove the whole engine. Is this correct? if not, and I hope not, how would you do it?

RAPTOR · 05-26-2003, 19:15

It might be easier to sling the engine in place and drop the K-member, suspension etc out of the way. I dunno, just another option.

crodarian · 06-05-2003, 06:01

the engine has to be at least lifted, but not fully removed from the engine bay so you can slide the sump out.

XRated · 06-10-2003, 05:28

Thought I was the only one! My ED needs its sump replaced also. I was quoted about $600 because as you know it's a lot of work. I couldn't do it myself either as I barely know how to change a tyre

Not really, but anyhow!

A couple of questions on this topic that may sound stupid: is the EA/EBII sump EXACTLY the same as an ED? Are they a straight swap? Will a sump from an EF/EL fit? Should I get one second hand or new? What price should I expect to pay for a sump?

Thanks guys.

Barefoot · 06-10-2003, 23:07

I think all the EA/B/D sumps are the same, but am unsure about the EF/L sump, but as an educated guess i would think not, someone can correct me if I am wrong. I will be getting a second hand one probably from the wreckers, don't know how much but I don't think it would be much.

What happened to yours XRated? My jack slipped off the crossmember and put a nice dent in the sump, its not too bad though, I still have oil pressure and stuff and there is no noises from it yet, so I am going to do mine when I get around to it.

XRated · 06-11-2003, 00:08

Hey Barefoot, about my sump - when I bought the car and had an RACV check the guy noted a big DENT in it. Plus there was all this dirt and rock type of shit, so we assumed the knob who had it before me took it bush-bashing or something... Not good.

Now the oil-light comes on when it's cold/just started up and it can't take the full specified amount of oil. My local mechanic reckons it's not too bad but it should be replaced in case of premature engine wear.

Tell us how you go anyway.

Cheers.

XplodEd EA · 06-15-2003, 05:05

I recently removed the sump off my engine while doing the head gasket and timing chain, guides etc. I left the engine in the car and put a block of wood on a jack and put it under the bellhousing and dropped the k-frame.

I highly recommend not doing this unless you have a hoist or really love lifting heavy objects lying on your back. You have to undo the sway bar from the chassis, undo the top strut bolts on both sides, undo the engine mounts, undo the 4 nuts (2 either side) in the engine bay near the engine mounts and then undo all 4 nuts holding the k-frame under the car. Then the k-frame can be dropped down far enough to get enough clearance for the sump to come out.

Have fun trying to get it all back in place cos it's a pain in the ass, and once you do get it back into place make sure every nut and bolt is done up super tight otherwise you'll hear creaks and cracks whenever you hit a bump or move the steering wheel.

It's a hell of alot easier with the engine out as you have more room to get at the bolts on the sump but its alot more work if all you're doing is the sump. In my case it would've been quicker and easier to take the engine out cos I already had all the manifolds and ancilaries disconnected.

Aussiblue · 06-20-2003, 21:16

If it's an appearance issue just buy a genuine Ford sump guard so the dent iss hidden and you won't be able to dent it so easily again.

XRated · 06-21-2003, 08:40

Interested in the sump guard - don't the coppas use these? How much would I be looking at?

Aussiblue · 06-22-2003, 03:08

Around $95 as I recall and they look good. Part number EAA 6K631 AKT