I was flipping threw the new motor mag and saw the old charger (easily the best looking rear end of any car...ever!, in my opinion) but one thing i didnt know was that it put out a crazy 225Kw with 430Nm in a 1370Kg shell!, i didnt remember the accel times nor did i want to buy the mag, so can sombody post them? from what i remember it was pretty close to a phase 3 gt, correct me if im wrong.
Would that be pretty much the most youd can get out of the 265? Any one owned or knew someone with a done up one? what did the basemodel factory stockers put out?
Any one know the 265 race cam specs?
Sorry for putting this up in a ford site but it seems some of us could learn from this motor
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XD series II Fairmont, 250 x-flow, 3spd auto
Somewhere i have an old wheels mag where they run a group of cars including the R/T E49 together....
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1999 Black Manual AU XR6HP
Unichip equipped by Autotech Engineering, Granville
Cam install by Crescent Motorsport, Liverpool
One Valiant forum I read over reckons with better tyres (modern) that a high 13 is possible.
They are just that damn good.
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1999 Black Manual AU XR6HP
Unichip equipped by Autotech Engineering, Granville
Cam install by Crescent Motorsport, Liverpool
I used to run a VG 2 door pacer in the late 70's. Believe it or not these were three speed floor shift cars with 245 two barrel hemi motors.
I modded mine a bit usual extractors and cam and head mods with two and 4 barrel carby set ups and it ran high 15's on the imfamous Dunlop aquajet radials. With a 5 speed and fuel injection it would be a 14 second car easy.
Doesn't sound fast today but In its day (1978) it would do most auto 351's, GTR torana's (not XU1 but most were look alikes), All the 302's, Monaro's with 307 or 308's. Only six that could come near was another hemi or a real XU1.
The Hemi was a very good motor. Chrysler had some good powertrain engineers in those days. Three gears and it would smoke the rear tyres mercilessly and rev off the speedo 120mph in third. I could wave good bye and pass my mates 307 Monaro and 302 XY in top gear.
Gotta love those old Hemi 245's and 265's. I had a 1971 VH R/T 265 as my first car in 1979. They had about 150-160KW "stock" from the factory with standard exhaust and 2 barrel carby (it was not the E37/38/47/48 engine with triple Webers). The "plain" R/T's had a bit extra over and above the 770 series engines (I think a slightly more aggressive cam and some other bits and pieces).
I put on extractors and (rice? haha) side pipes which must have been the rage at the time (which were functional with 2 hot dogs inside each side). The extractors were split to exit 3 pipes into one side and 3 into the other. It was plenty loud. I had the head worked, a reground cam and a Holley carby. These cars weighed only 1370kgs which is astounding power to weight compared to the N/A XR6 at nearly 1800kgs.
So what went harder? The Charger vs anything unmodified up to 100ks and then it ran out of puff because of the gearing (I had the crap 3-on-the-floor manual) and lack of power and torque beyond 5000 rpm. The triple-webered cars revved much harder (I think they were blueprinted, balanced and had much hotter cams). Low 14's and high 13's for these vehicles (with the E49 4 speed box).
351 Fords and 350 Chevs would get me but unmodified 302's, 308's and so on were fair game. I won a carton of beer once off a bloke who said the Val was crap and his 302 would eat it. I never did race it legally but I'd say mid to low 15's for a 1/4 mile. These things were weapons at the lights if you could get traction.
They were unpopular vehicles though - everyone lusted after Monaros, Toranas and GT's. Valiants were cheap as chips to buy as a result. What I would give to have the old girl back now....
The most I have seen from one NA is the one that has won the summernats a couple of times. It runs an alloy head, lots of compression, and 55mm webers. I believe it puts out over 350hp to the wheels.
My mates puts out 175hp at the wheels with basic mods and a total cost of $1100 including the motor.
An E49 cam is 308deg adv duration and 232deg 050" duration, 108LSA and under .490 valve lift. By today's standards that cam is shithouse.
14.1 times to 100 mph!!!!!, and the phase 3 did 15.3 and the Porsche 911s did 17.1 , why am i even considering doing up my x-flow?, i wont ever see figures like that...
35 gallons isnt that like 140 litres
"350rwhp NA from a 6" is that all..
Dammit now i want to go buy one and spray it "mopar orange"...... with 20 inch spinners, like this rx7 i saw yesterday on my 18th birthday, i swear i thought it was doing a 4wd burnout
How much yous reckon for a valiant coup with a 265 manual would cost these days in average condition?
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XD series II Fairmont, 250 x-flow, 3spd auto
Charger bring decent dollar now because during the 80's many were stripped for parts or abused.
Still you can pick up a decent charger six cylinder for $5000 to $10,000 but the E49's start at $35,000 now.
Had a E38 replica once in silver with a 360 and a B&M blower, damn that was a nice car and it had the 35 gallon tank with the twin fillers. It cost a fair bit to fill that now.
Currently I'm building a Centura with a hemi six and a T04 turbo, that should be a bit of fun, hopefully it will be ready for this years Summernats.
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, why am i even considering doing up my x-flow?, i wont ever see figures like that...
is that all.. 
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