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Old 12-18-2004, 05:34   #1 (permalink)
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hi i gotta XT , i just replaced the paper air filter with a K&N flat panel air filter , and im wondering if anyone knows of the actual benefit....as in how many kws extra....on the KandN website they claim a 8kw increase at the wheel, and the motoquipe dude told me that flat panel will do me as good as a pod....
wats the truth behind all of this.....whats with the BMC pods, how much were they, did u's need a custom box????
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Dont know man. But have run 150 rwkws with a panel kn filter.So I know its good for that much power.Maybe a pod will make a difference? They say it will but I cant be bothered for now to change it.
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honestly just changing the filter will make almost no noticable difference to the car.
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honestly just changing the filter will make almost no noticable difference to the car.
i got 118rwkw stock on dynamics dyno, then put k@n filter and jmm plugs in and then got 116rwkw the mechanic didn't know much about the plugs but before second dyno run told me that the filter would give me atleast 4rwkw go figure!
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i got 118rwkw stock on dynamics dyno, then put k@n filter and jmm plugs in and then got 116rwkw the mechanic didn't know much about the plugs but before second dyno run told me that the filter would give me atleast 4rwkw go figure!
basically your looking at less than a 2% change in the runs. To me thats close enought to be no different. I would say neither the plugs nor the filter had any effect whatsoever.
No surprise really.

Did you have stock exhaust at the time?
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basically your looking at less than a 2% change in the runs. To me thats close enought to be no different. I would say neither the plugs nor the filter had any effect whatsoever.
No surprise really.

Did you have stock exhaust at the time?
yes it had stock exhaust and I think your right in your asumption that its close enough to be no different, maybe the filter is more for higher kw output .Have since put on a 2 1/2 exhaust no headers yet
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yes it had stock exhaust and I think your right in your asumption that its close enough to be no different, maybe the filter is more for higher kw output .Have since put on a 2 1/2 exhaust no headers yet
I'd say theres the problem then. If the engine cant get rid of the gases any faster then all the intake and spark in the world wont help. Thats the problem with the stock headers, they really choke up the engines. They give the XR's the better heads etc than strangle them with a stock exhaust.

Would be interesting to perform the same test after headers and the exhaust you now have, might show a few kw extra. Then again, might not.
I doubt the K&N filter would make a massive difference, mayby 1 or 2 kw to be honest.
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I'd say theres the problem then. If the engine cant get rid of the gases any faster then all the intake and spark in the world wont help. Thats the problem with the stock headers, they really choke up the engines. They give the XR's the better heads etc than strangle them with a stock exhaust.

Would be interesting to perform the same test after headers and the exhaust you now have, might show a few kw extra. Then again, might not.
I doubt the K&N filter would make a massive difference, mayby 1 or 2 kw to be honest.
I am ready for headers now just gotta make up my mind which ones to get. Either jmm or pacemaker, when there on i will get another dyno and hopefully will get 130rwkw. would go straight for the jmm but i live in Queensland and the extra cost plus postage and then extra to have fitted once here is an issue
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I am ready for headers now just gotta make up my mind which ones to get. Either jmm or pacemaker, when there on i will get another dyno and hopefully will get 130rwkw. would go straight for the jmm but i live in Queensland and the extra cost plus postage and then extra to have fitted once here is an issue
yeah, they (jmm) are not the cheapest but they do work. I recommend them myself as I was stunned at the improvement, worth every cent and then some.
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yeah, they (jmm) are not the cheapest but they do work. I recommend them myself as I was stunned at the improvement, worth every cent and then some.
Ok Casper i think you just pushed me over the edge ,if i dont get the jmm headers now i will always be left wondering,i read the improvement in your car with your mods so they must be pretty good
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