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Old 11-25-2004, 01:45   #1 (permalink)
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Rough Idle Verdict - And a few questions

Headgasket is gooonnnneeee...
Great time of the year just before christmas, but anyway

Had the cooling system checke dout and the gaskets got a leak on #3 cylinder. I have a few questions...I know I will be using AU Head bolts but is it a good idea to use the AU steel head gasket or should I use the EF item? Is there anything else I should look out for etc?
I priced up some headwork while its off but got ridiculous prices so Im not going to bother

The car has never overheated, would it be fair to say its just the gasket deteriorating or could it be a cracked head etc? if it is how much would it cost to get it repaired?
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Old 11-25-2004, 04:02   #2 (permalink)
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so.....anyone in brissy want to make a few extra chrissy dollars?
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Old 11-26-2004, 07:00   #3 (permalink)
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Head work shouldnt cost that much man....in melbourne if you have the bhead gasket off, and you want a bit of a compression increase and get the head shaved a litte, its only over 100 bucks thats if you take the head off...but if you are getting it taken off for the gasket, then get the head shaved too, im getting it done to my XF early next year...

brisbane mechanics must charge too much!! how much did they want to get the head shaved?

I also saw your thread on the rough idle, did you read this?:

EF FALCON IDLE PROBLEMS
The EF is developing a few idle problems. Most common is dropping the odd cylinder at idle. Appreciate the EF is the first of the really lean Falcons - 90% of the problems are dirty injectors - they are NOT like the previous models that can idle with filthy injectors. In the EF this will lead to ignition lead and/or coil problems. We strongly recommend the genuine leads - they last longer and appear less prone to cross firing. The coils should be tested just like on the V6 Commodores - that is, they should be able to jump 30Kv or 1" in atmosphere when you add in the gap. Coils available from those fine chaps at FUELTECH for less than $100. The other common problem is the severely flaring idle - sometimes as much as 2000 rpm. While we have had a few problems with the idle speed motor sealing (usually only flares a few hundred rpm after high manifold vacuum) most common is the idle speed motor driver in the computer. This is the EF that stalls or screams its head off for no reason - makes it a bitch to drive around town. While there are a huge number of different EF ECU's, we can now supply overnight for $300 if we know the part code affixed to the harness plug - 94 DA 12A650 xx (where the xx tells us the application).

from fueltech website: http://www.fueltech.com.au/vehicletips.htm
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Old 11-26-2004, 20:58   #4 (permalink)
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yeah I read that actually. its definately the head gasket, getting it done, drive in drive out, new head bolts, machined head etc for $610
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Old 11-29-2004, 00:01   #5 (permalink)
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thats not too bad a price at all, does that include ALL the labor, such as them dismantaling the engine?
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Old 11-29-2004, 00:16   #6 (permalink)
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yeah thats everything, drive in, drive out

unfortunately now it seems my head is worse than first thought
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thats not too shabby at all, but if you are getting some work done to the head,is this guy over-familar with the 4.0 litres? I have heard of some rogues out there...

whats wrong with the head now? have you found something extra bad about it?
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yeah from what he has told me he seems to know his stuff about the gasket problems with the E-Series

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yeah I just saw that thread...that is not good mate, not good at all, how the hell did it get that much corrosion?? it sounds like its pretty severe, for a 96 EF....what did you do to the engine!??....im assuming the corrosion is caused by not using the correct coolant + corrossion inhibitor, using the iron block + alloy head...those too dont mix if you dont use the correct inhibitor as specifed by Ford for the EF series....I know people who dont even use that stuff, they just fill with water, and its all rusty within a week....

is that what the mechanic said caused it?
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yeh i would go the AU head gasket and bolts, a bit more relability i think
u should get the radiator checked for blockages as well. did ur car overheat?
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