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Old 02-10-2004, 05:00   #1 (permalink)
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Question XE - No more LRP!!!

In 2 months there will be nowhere near us selling lrp, and we need it my dad's xe. I was wondering what to use as a substitue, like unleaded additives etc?

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Re: XE - No more LRP!!!

Get an unleaded head from an XF.

Wouldn't cost much and you can still use the same intake/exhaust manifolds. If you do the work your self it would only cost $250 or so including all new stem seals, gaskets, etc.

Also remember unleaded engines require a catalytic converter to be installed.
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Also remember unleaded engines require a catalytic converter to be installed.
I thought that if you changed your engine, you need to upgrage to the emissions (ie cat converter) that the engine came out with. But if you use the XE bottom end, then the head off a ULP XF - then no cat required. It would be the same if you converted the XE head to ULP, not cat required.

There is also some stuff called flash lube, which does a drip feed into your fuel line, so there is no need to buy an additive every tank. I was going to use this stuff, but I ended up with a set of ULP windsor heads off an XR8 for my mustang. I definately won't be running catalytic converters.


But double check your local RTA/Rego rules first, as each state/territory is different.
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Re: XE - No more LRP!!!

To the best of my knowledge its the fuel, not the engine that requires certain things to be installed. If anyones got some more information i'd love for it to be posted!
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Re: XE - No more LRP!!!

The cat is not required.
Only vehicles post 86 require a cat, any vehicle run on ULP before this date require no cat. If you changed the complete engine to a later model, then yes you would need to comply with ADR's which the later engine complies with.

Many Japanese cars pre 86 are able to run on ULP and do so, they have no cats.

All what is needed is hardened valve seats and stainless valves to use ULP.

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Re: XE - No more LRP!!!

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Get an unleaded head from an XF.

Wouldn't cost much and you can still use the same intake/exhaust manifolds. If you do the work your self it would only cost $250 or so including all new stem seals, gaskets, etc.

Also remember unleaded engines require a catalytic converter to be installed.
The car's got 450k on the clock, and is only going to be registered for another 6months, so spending 250 bucks on a head i don't think is really justifyible for a $400 car. Thanks for the idea though. Anybody know about products like valvemaster? Saw an add in RACQ road ahead, but I don't know the costs, and 1 treatment per 20L seems a hassle when you fill it up.

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Re: XE - No more LRP!!!

If LRP is going to be around for 2 months, and you are keeping the car registered for only another 4 months, I'd just run it on LRP until they stop selling it, then run it on ULP or PULP. You are not going to get any decent return for the work you are doing on the car... Drive it till it dies.
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The thing is we don't actually know how much longer we'll have her going for. Its a great cheap run around. Dad swore he was getting rid of it 3 years ago, and its still here, so he wants to keep the engine going as long as possible

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Look at the flash lube stuff... all under the bonnet, and it meters out it's dosage as you drive. No worries about putting X amount in your petrol tank. I think you get 3-6 months out of a bottle, depending on how far you drive. From memory, it was about 100-130, including the fitting kit, first bottle of stuff, and a local garage to fit it.
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Re: XE - No more LRP!!!

You can buy a little yellow syringe thing from the servo when you fill your car up, I think its valvemaster. All ya gotta do is squirt it in the tank, 1 syringe full to a tank - too easy. Or, if your car has duel fuel, you could probably run unleaded/premium fine without any additives.
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