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Old 08-08-2002, 03:01   #1 (permalink)
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XF Sometimes making strange "Grinding" sound when operating starter

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Recently, My XF has been starting to make a strange "grinding" sound when operating the starter after the car has been left sitting for a few days. If i turn the ignition back to "off" and then try to start the car again it works straight away. The "grinding" sound dosent come back until the car is left sitting again. The noise sounds similar if not exactly to the sound when you try to operate the starter when the car is running.

Ive been told either starter motor/ring gear related?

If it is the ring gear...how much is one of those to change in a XF?

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Old 08-08-2002, 03:11   #2 (permalink)
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yeah mine has been doing the same but only first thing in the morning

i just put it down to the cold
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Old 08-08-2002, 03:12   #3 (permalink)
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yeah mine does it in the morning, only if the cars been sitting for a few days tho.

Nah not efi...the old webber!

ive had too many dramas with EFI cars...gone for a carby this time!

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Its a common problem with the XD/E/F's the solenoid that throws the starter gear out, loses its oomph and once that happens the ring-gear slowly get ground away until the starter gear will ONLY make that griding noise and the car will never start.

There is a new starter motor from bosch that has a much larger/stronger throw-out solenoid that fixes this problem.

More than likely you will have to get a new ring-gear as well.
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Pull starter out and check that the pre- ingage works ok and that the shaft/ gear moves out freely. It should go to in-gage then turn engine over. If it turns too soon thats when it makes that noise..It's hitting the motor contacts too soon!!
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I had the same problem a few years ago. I just went to a wrecker and got a replacement starter, fitted it myself in a matter of minutes and haven't looked back.
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Yep check out the starter and get it asap. To change the ring gear you have to drop the gearbox which will be more expensive than a new starter.
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Thanks for your replies guys..

Ill go out and get a new starter motor as soon as posible

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Re: XF Sometimes making strange "Grinding" sound when operating starter

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if your starter motor gear has worn out most likely your fly wheel will be missing teeth and it will happen again not staight away but to totally stop it happening again for a long time you would do the flywheel too... just an option i took with my xd
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