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Old 10-19-2005, 18:42   #1 (permalink)
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xflow comparison

Just after some opinions on the following two hypothetical setups...aimed for a te corty.
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Effort/Difficulty?

Setup 1 - 250 xflow, exhaust, manifolds, 400cfm gas mixer + setup, mild cam, stallie, auto, shiftkit, 3-ratios....

Setup 2 - 200 xflow, exhaust, manifolds, 400cfm gas mixer + setup, hotter cam (aiming for 6000), lifters, springs, flatops, balancing, manual, 4.11s.....

Any input greatly appreciated....aiming for gutsy, daily driver (hence the gas), prefer manual and love hellis...cheers
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Old 10-20-2005, 00:07   #2 (permalink)
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Re: xflow comparison

well this isn't the most educated response, but it is an opinion nonetheless...and a good bitch for no particular reason

i'd go the manual simple cause my auto is shit...i planted my foot in the f%%king wet today, and all it did was drive forward, NO wheelspin at all. round corners all it did was make a cool noise, but didn't get the back out AT ALL :@

with a manual you don't hurt anything as much as a rollback...shhhhh...manuals are much more fun, but a full manualised auto would be just as good, if you only want 3 gears .

and obviously if you go with setup 2 it's a LOT more work = more $$

WAIT i just read setup 2 is a 200...why not go a 250 and the good ol' 200 rods...the 200's aren't any cheaper imo
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Old 10-30-2005, 04:43   #3 (permalink)
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Re: xflow comparison

Howdy. Been looking for stuff to put into my XFlow...good motor.

Anyways, a mild-grind auto Crow Cam will set you back around $200 or so, lifters, depending on whether you want real revs and dependability or just low-end with stock lifters, from $10 to $20 each, x12 for 1 per valve , but if you've got the head off for the cam...

A custom exhaust done in any exhaust place will set you back $300 or so for a mild steel system + single muffler, 2.5 inch, but performance exhausts are ALLOT more pricey...high-flow cats, high-flow mufflers, stainless, etc, but i think that would be around $1500?

I haven't looked at stallies, shift kits, etc, as i cbf...my xflow is still stock, and why upgrade the tranny when the motor is still stock?

a tough manual is the 4-speed top-loader, and then you don't need to screw around with stallies, etc, but a stock 4speed borg-warner is gutsy too, and can be pulled out of nearly any falcon S.
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Re: xflow comparison

hey
what you wanting from the engine?
id go manual if you like manual on both engines.
go 200rods on the 250 for mild engines you cant beat cubic inch's when not playing with big revs
runa 14776 crow or bigger depending on how drivable you want
for 150 rwkw you need acl race rebuild about a 30/70 street camhead shaved 420thou on a e2 4bbl intake gas reasearch etc intake extractors 2.5in exhaust should get you close to the mark and be able to smoke the first 2 if not 3 gears most like 4 on standerd 13in wheels
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420 Thou?????????? Um....
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Old 11-10-2005, 22:21   #6 (permalink)
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Thnx for replies...
Planning on taking the piss out of new p-plate laws (no turbos, v8s, performance 6s). I plan to use the gas as my scape goat, also no emmission garbage for tinas.
Itll probably be defect city anyway, but itll be revving to 6000rpm with mild bottom end rebuild and cam to suite.
Alloy ford head is good (closed chamber i think) maybe with my bros old clevo valves and porting.

Wondering if anybodys had experience with supra 5-speeds and ford 6s, if so, do tell....
Also honest opinions of how realistic this is bearing in mind the new laws...
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Old 11-10-2005, 22:25   #7 (permalink)
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...on the 200xflow by the way...pretty set on that...
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Old 11-11-2005, 15:40   #8 (permalink)
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someone told me a story once, used a CRS kit to bolt the toyota 5sp (not sure if it was the iron or alloy) to the X-Flow, and wasn't happy with the ratios. first gear was an absolute joke, and reckoned the XF box can handle enough (not much but enough) plus has better ratios...
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Old 11-11-2005, 21:43   #9 (permalink)
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i have an te with an xf efi motor in it on str8 lpg.go an efi manifold on it is the most efficent.with a celica 5 speed i have had no trouble with the box changes well
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Old 11-12-2005, 03:12   #10 (permalink)
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you dont need to go to 6000rpm to get good power out of the xflow, used to have an xe 250, bored 60 thou, full head work, heatseeeker cam later changed to come cam of similae grind, heatseeker part # was hs40d, balanced, dizzy tune & used a 350 holley. on the dyno it made 200rwhp approx 150 rwkw @ 5200rpm in 3rd gear, toploader box & running 2.92 diff
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