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Old 02-02-2004, 15:14   #1 (permalink)
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302 or 351 in XE

what needs to be done to swap an XE 3.3l 6cyl with a 302 or 351 how many hours labour would u suggest for a mechanic to do the work for me. & what would i be looking at for a 302 or 351, can they be bought new??
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Re: 302 or 351 in XE

You need an engine, trans, new radiator, engine mounts and all the other little bits and pieces such as hoses fuel pump etc, etc.

I did the swap in my XF and it cost me $1300 for all the parts to swap it over from a six. It cost me $1200 to get it all fitted including a new set of extractors attached to my old exhaust.

Do you live in melbourne? I bought all the gear from just falcons on canterbury road, if something was missing i could go back and they would give it to me free, They are good blokes. They will do the fitting as well for around $600, I went somewhere else for the fitting and that was a bad a idea.
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Re: 302 or 351 in XE

No im in newcastle unfortunately. Was the $1300 for the engine aswell as parts, that doesn't sound too bad, so to put in the 351 without extractors or any mods i'd be looking at around 2k? My main query would be can i buy a brand new chev engine to put in?

Any suggestions on where i can read up on this stuff, on the net?
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Re: 302 or 351 in XE

Also would i have to replace the spring's or any other mod's like that
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Re: 302 or 351 in XE

I already had heavy duty lowered springs so I didnt have to change them, Probably have to if they are stock 6 springs.
You can still buy reco engines you might find a new one in something like parts peddler magazine. A new one would blow that $2000 to hell though.
Mine was second hand with a 3 month warranty on all parts.
The engine was $600, trans $300 miscellaneous parts were $300 and they threw in the reco 3 core rad for $100.
Not really sure where you could read up on it. Maybe look through my old posts if you do a search. If you can find a ford wrecker in your area they would know all you need to know. Its fairly straight forward as the XE came with an 8 from the factory.

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Yea it helps alot, thank's DansEdgli
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My main query would be can i buy a brand new chev engine to put in?

Any suggestions on where i can read up on this stuff, on the net?
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Did I just see the che*..... word on FF, good luck in fitting a chev to an XE.

I once saw a guy drag a commodore with a hot 351 in, it that ran 11's the only reason he used a commodore instead of a falcon was due to its lighter weight.
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Re: 302 or 351 in XE

I'll be swapping the 6 in my XB for an 351 in a few weeks. I be doing the work myself to save money. If your handy with tools and mechanically minded you could do it yourself.
There are a miriad of bits a pieces that you might need. I'm swapping from one car to another so I have all the parts needed already but I was checking the other day and theres alot thats going over.
Remember to the emissions requirements needed to pass rego. I pretty sure that you'll need to make sure that all the EGR equipment that was available with the 351c XE's is in your car so you can pass the Blue Slip or whatever it is in your state. And I don't think that you can put earlier model blocks into your car. You have to get a black 351c, but someone here will let you know.

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Re: 302 or 351 in XE

I live in Newie, and I'm also putting a 302 into an XE that came with a 6. I bought an XD wagon that was complete but not running for $500 from the Hunter Falcon Centre on Griffith Rd. There are other numerous wrecker around though. I bought my first 302 from Warners Bay wreckers on Hillsborough Rd, but it turned out to be a dud, with used gear it's always a gamble, they had just bought it and never used it. Your best bet would be a complete XD-XE or ZJ-ZK wreck, as they have it all, plus tons of other spares.
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i did this swap back in 85 with my 3.3 alloy head converted to what was essentially a 3514v cjet motor and a close ratio toploader.apart from the obvious you will have to modify your pedal box depending on the trans you choose.if you choose a c4 then you will have to lose the clutch pedal and fit a auto type brake pedal and maybe even a new pin.manuals require even more work as you will have to ditch the cable arrangement and convert it to hydraulic which again requires pedal mods (cable is pull type ,hydraulic is push)and fit the firewall with a clutch cyl and associates lines down to slave cyl etc.prolly cheaper just to sell yours and buy one fitted with a351 less hassle i,d say.
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