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Old 05-31-2005, 00:28   #1 (permalink)
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6 litre Cleveland

Folks,
im building a 365 (6L) cleveland (strange capacity i know but its to meet class capacity limits), and im wondering if anyone has had similar experience with this combo.
The crank is ground to chev bigend journal size so i need suggestions for a H beam rod/forged piston combo to suit the cleveland block, any ideas?
Obviously its a chev style rod and piston but which brand or part number will suit this combo? or will i have to get custom decked pistons to suit?
Any help would be appreciated!
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Old 05-31-2005, 00:34   #2 (permalink)
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Folks,
im building a 365 (6L) cleveland (strange capacity i know but its to meet class capacity limits), and im wondering if anyone has had similar experience with this combo.
The crank is ground to chev bigend journal size so i need suggestions for a rod/piston combo to suit the cleveland block, any ideas? or will i have to get custom decked pistons?
Can you just slap on 3V's and keep your standard stroke? Or do you need factory irons?
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Can you just slap on 3V's and keep your standard stroke? Or do you need factory irons?
Nope it has to run iron heads (4V's)
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Nope it has to run iron heads (4V's)
What about 3v iron heads?
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What about 3v iron heads?
They have to be factory manufactured castings, besides ive already got the 4V's and with port fillers they are damn good things anyway.
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Which class is this one? Will they rip off the heads and check? If the class is up to and including 6 litre's would'nt you be better off going the tried and proven displacement's? EG 351 stock stroke 6 inch rod or plus 30 in bore. Sounds like your heads are where your power will be coming from just mate it all up.
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Folks,
im building a 365 (6L) cleveland (strange capacity i know but its to meet class capacity limits), and im wondering if anyone has had similar experience with this combo.
The crank is ground to chev bigend journal size so i need suggestions for a H beam rod/forged piston combo to suit the cleveland block, any ideas?
Obviously its a chev style rod and piston but which brand or part number will suit this combo? or will i have to get custom decked pistons to suit?
Any help would be appreciated!
You may be able to offset grind a factory Cleveland crank and use 6.0" Chevy rods and any of a number of pistons to suit. You're looking at a stroke of 3.585" to give you 365.8 CID, 366 is 6L.

Something else to consider is a Dart block, building a Clevor using a 4.155" bore and a 3.37" destroker crankshaft. The bigger bore will help the Cleveland heads breathe much better.

Another option would be to use a factory Cleveland block and sleeve it. Then overbore it to 4.080" and you have a 366 with a factory stock stroke Cleveland 3.500" crank. You can easily get custom pistons to fit. The larger bore will work better with 4V heads!

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You may be able to offset grind a factory Cleveland crank and use 6.0" Chevy rods and any of a number of pistons to suit. You're looking at a stroke of 3.585" to give you 365.8 CID, 366 is 6L.

Something else to consider is a Dart block, building a Clevor using a 4.155" bore and a 3.37" destroker crankshaft. The bigger bore will help the Cleveland heads breathe much better.

Another option would be to use a factory Cleveland block and sleeve it. Then overbore it to 4.080" and you have a 366 with a factory stock stroke Cleveland 3.500" crank. You can easily get custom pistons to fit. The larger bore will work better with 4V heads!

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Thanks Davis,
yes ive already got a 4MAB crank knife edged and offset ground to 3.58 with chev 2.10 B/E, which i picked up very cheaply.
6" rods were my choice now ive got to work out which chev piston will give me the correct compression height!
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yes ive already got a 4MAB crank knife edged and offset ground to 3.58 with chev 2.10 B/E, which i picked up very cheaply.
6" rods were my choice now ive got to work out which chev piston will give me the correct compression height!
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Rather than use a chev piston which will need flycutting how about this.Given that you have the crank and rods already then if are working within the standard architecture of the block then a piston height of 1.41 is required with a six inch rod.The closest piston to this in the ford range would be something like anACL or hypatec piston ,the type which allows you to use 302 clev rods with a standard 3.5 inch stroke. The comp height on these is 1.425 which means that theoretically on a standard 9.2 block they will be proud of the deck by some 15 thou.The tops of the pistons could easily be decked to suit.
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Ive got a 366 clevo with the offset ground crank in the XY. Pretty shure i'm using 302rods. Have all the info at home will have a look to see what pistons and rods ect.
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