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dieselduster · 08-07-2011, 11:53

Hi guys can anyone tell by looking at this picture if it is a cleveland or a windsor its in a 70 Galaxie, i just bought it and have not phisicaly been to the car yet,

Jim

**Big Block Ford** · 08-07-2011, 18:46

It's a little difficult to tell just from that pic but it looks like a Windsor to me.

Count the rocker cover bolts. A Windsor has 6 and a Cleveland has 8. If you can show a pic of the thermostat housing area then there is a difference there. The Cleveland has a snout on the front of the block that houses the timing chain and has the thermostat housing on it and the Windsor has a removeable aluminium casing that houses the timing chain.

Hope this helps.

dieselduster · 08-07-2011, 20:02

Thanks Lance i will see when i get the car, i got it off of ebay 1970 Galaxie , we will see when i get it here and add some pictures of the car also , i will be happy with either one specs on a 70 351 W 4 barel i think are 300 Hp and 365 lbs Trq its all good to me

Thanks
Jim

**Big Block Ford** · 08-07-2011, 23:25

The Windsor is a great motor and has plenty of aftermarket parts still available.

Will be great to see some pic's of your new beast too :)

George1861 · 09-11-2011, 17:42

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Originally Posted by Big Block Ford

It's a little difficult to tell just from that pic but it looks like a Windsor to me.

Count the rocker cover bolts. A Windsor has 6 and a Cleveland has 8. If you can show a pic of the thermostat housing area then there is a difference there. The Cleveland has a snout on the front of the block that houses the timing chain and has the thermostat housing on it and the Windsor has a removeable aluminium casing that houses the timing chain.

Hope this helps.

The easy way is to say the W has the thermostat in the intake & the C has it on the block. Why worry about the number of cover bolts, fuel pump bolts verticle or horizontal or any of the other difficult to remember or see ways?

**Big Block Ford** · 09-12-2011, 22:27

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Originally Posted by George1861

The easy way is to say the W has the thermostat in the intake & the C has it on the block. Why worry about the number of cover bolts, fuel pump bolts verticle or horizontal or any of the other difficult to remember or see ways?

Fair enough George but that explanation has been used before and has still resulted in some confusion and the rocker cover bolts have sorted it.

George1861 · 09-13-2011, 03:58

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Originally Posted by Big Block Ford

Fair enough George but that explanation has been used before and has still resulted in some confusion and the rocker cover bolts have sorted it.

Still can't see how it's easier to remember the number of bolts vs where the thermostat is, but what ever works for you!

xdclevo · 09-16-2011, 22:07

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Originally Posted by George1861

Still can't see how it's easier to remember the number of bolts vs where the thermostat is, but what ever works for you!

I agree. other easy way for W or C motor is the Cleveland fuel pump has the bolts verticle, on top of each other, and the Windsor has them side by side.