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Old 06-21-2004, 05:07   #1 (permalink)
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engine block year??

Hi,

I want to swap the 250 crossflow for a 351 in my XD.

I know that it is a hell of a lot easier to just sell the XD six and buy an XD eight but this one has a family history.

Anyway, my questions are;

Does an engine block have any way of telling what year it is?

I ask this because I don't want to buy a reconditioned 351 and find out it was from an XY and then have the Qld department of transport tell me the engine is older than the car and therefore won't pass emissions.

Does the year of the block matter anyway?

And if so, what 351 block should I be chasing? Pref. 4 bolt.

Thanks for any info you might have,
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Old 06-21-2004, 05:26   #2 (permalink)
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Re: engine block year??

My understanding is they can trace an engine number to the year of manufacture but you would surely be able to get around that with a bit of negotiation.

If in doubt why not source a 351 'black' motor which was available in XD & XE to be safe. Other than being black instead of blue, you can also tell by the smaller dizzy drive shaft diameter - Early model Blocks: 0.500, XD-XE Black Blocks: 12mm

Forget about 4bolt mains, you won't need one even if you find one for a good price.
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Old 06-21-2004, 05:38   #3 (permalink)
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In my dealing with the RTA in Victoria. You can run a block from any year provided you run:

a) pollution heads (in my cases they were V8 Holdens)
b) pollution gear inc plumbing

With my 4cyls all that had to be there was the pollution gear. It didn't matter what year the block was made also.

The RTA in Vic passed me everytime.

Don't say the engines is:

a) a non-pollution engine (let them figure it out). After the words non-pollution they stop you and cease listening

Do say:

a) The engines running all the required pollution gear appropriate to the year of chassis manufacture. This may include factory manifolds.

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I tried to get pollution heads from Yella Terra but they stopped doin Clevo unleaded and LPG heads some time ago. I think it would cost you just under 2 grand to put valve inserts and s/s valves and bronze valve guides. See if u can get a set of those new alloy heads cheap. There are a few makin them now. Better than doin up a set of cast iron heads !!!
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Quite right. For the cost of getting 2V closed chambers into shape. You can buy a set of alloy heads. The only downfall with the alloys is the modifications to the rest of the parts that comes with it. Where the cast iron just bolt on as they should.

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Old 06-22-2004, 23:02   #6 (permalink)
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Re: engine block year??

Thanks for all the advice. I will see if I can track down a black engine before looking at other options.

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Re: engine block year??

Here's an update:

I have just bought an XD ute with a 351 and C4. Diff is a disc brake borg warner I think.

The body will be junked but the engine/auto has potential. As I bought a complete running XD v8 all brackets, mounts, radiator, exhaust will all swap over.

I picked up some pacemaker extractors for it and am getting a Holley street dominator on monday.

The bug has hit hard!

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Old 06-28-2004, 12:48   #8 (permalink)
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Re: engine block year??

I just found this page after searching through posts of Ford forums:

http://www.falcongt.com.au/LINKS.html

It says I have a Feb 82 Ute and a V8 from a 1979 Falcon 500. The ute was previously registered with this engine so I shouldn't have too many dramas.

Excellent web page for tracking down history on engine/body numbers.

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EPA can stick a little reader on the exhaust and fail or pass you at any time, engine year makes no difference, condition of engine and polution gear does, you could put a 1948 engine in the car, as long as the 82 polution gear functions correct it will pass an epa test.
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Depending on where u r that may work but in Qld they state that the engine must be newer than the existing one (but no-one would know). I was looking at a 69 260ci Windsor to put in the 79 TE Corty but ended up with a 71 302 Boss engine. Paint it black and blue add some EGR and no-one would know. I wouldn't think they would ring Ford with the engine number to see how old it was !!!
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