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Old 05-18-2005, 00:00   #1 (permalink)
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is this a good buy?

I have available to me the following parts, all are brand new never used, he wants about 12K for it all.

Ford motorsport block, 8.2 deck looks like R302 block(3xsplayed caps)
Eagle 4340 crank and rods(L19 bolts) to make 347 stroker
Venolia 8.5 to 1 forged pistons
CNC ported AFR225's complete, with double springs
Crane roller cam and lifters(HYD) for blower
Romac twin keway blower balancer
YT platinum shaft mounted rocker set
All rings and bearings
Full SS bolt package
Head stud set
Mellings oil pump
Copper head gaskets
New timing cover
Rollmaster premium timing set

The block has been tunnel bored, bored, decked, and the entire rotating assembly is balanced within 1/10 of a gram.

The only part that isn't of use to me is the cam.

Does this sound like a good deal?
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Old 05-18-2005, 01:23   #2 (permalink)
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So it's a blower bottom end with no blower? Is it just parts or is it currently assembled?

Were they AFD heads?

What are the cam specs (part number)?

If you're planning on running it naturally aspirated (no blower, just carb & manifold), then the 8.5:1 pistons just aren't going to work (they allow for blower boost). You'll be needing about 10-11:1+CR otherwise your engine will be a dog with a big cam.

Not sure what the block is worth (guess US$1400 so more in Aust), but all the other parts you could buy brand new for about $9000-10,000 at a guess. Engine builders normally charge about $500 for assembly.

There's some serious heavy duty stuff on that shopping list.........what are your engine goals?

If you went different pistons, you'd need the setup rebalanced.
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Re: is this a good buy?

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Were they AFD heads?



If you went different pistons, you'd need the setup rebalanced.
Him got windsor heads.
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Old 05-18-2005, 02:27   #4 (permalink)
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Like I said "parts" not assembled engine, 347" is windsor AFD are clevo only ie no provision for wet inlet, the cam is the only thing I would need to change out for a turbo grind.

Sounds like it is a bit expensive for "new" secondhand parts, the guy at the shop said that a customer of his bought it all for an au and just ran out of money after he got divorced from his missus, I think he bought the stuff for a customer who changed his mind and now the shop owner wants to recoup his losses.

Any opinions on the value of this stuff are welcome.
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Ahhh, the turbo! Thats OK then

What I'd do is call up few performance shops and give them your "shopping list" of the above parts.

You'll find that some can discount quite well when buying in bulk. What state are you in?

Just offer him an amount and haggle from there.
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similar dart block-3500
crank-497
rods-778
pistons-950
heads-4500
rockers-1100
balancer-282
stud kit-210
cu gaskets-185
SS bolt set-240
edelbrock timing cover-220
rollmaster set-101
mellings pump-90
bearings-150
rings-300
roller cam custom-585
roller lifters-750
balance-340
bore-200

Total estimate-$14 978 prob cost him a fair bit more as he used a non 10/10 crank and the pistons were customs, prob paid more mark up too.

I will offer him 10K at most. It will still cost plenty to build it, inlet, rocker covers, sump, better oil pump and pickup, new cam, pushrods, gasket set, o-ring block, final hone block, dissasemble heads and check them, blueprint assembly, final assembly.

Anything more than 10K and I would rather spend the extra money and buy it myself and use a 9.5 deck world block instead of the pissant 8.2. Thinking of it now the new world block is heaps better than the old 8.2 ford stuff.
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wish i had 10 grand too start again on engine only, afd,chi,stroker ohh shucks, anyway is 10 grand better spent on a clevo or a windsor bang for buck i'd say the clevo unless you have a eb falc up to au series 3 and for obvious reasons clevo's and rego wont work.
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Dart blocks come in four sizes 8.2 / 8.7 / 9.2 / 9.5
...And take big over bores as well...
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