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Old 11-15-2004, 03:31   #1 (permalink)
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Installing Gear Drive, Cleveland

I have just bought myself a geardrive setup for my clevo and was just after some advice for installing it. it did not come with any instructions so im just after some hints or tips.
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Old 11-15-2004, 03:47   #2 (permalink)
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What sort?
I'll give you one tip, if you value your C
Fit a double row timing chain!!!!!
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why whats wrong with a gear drive?
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We have had this debate before do you whant it for the noise or performance. If you whant my advice dont do it, i had one in my last motor and it made one hell of a mess chewed out five or six valve collets two snaped valve springs not to mention all of the metal in the oil pick-up. It is not realy some thing you would run on the street if you whant a blower sound get a blower. Or go to page four of this link.
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i want both the performance and i dont mind the noise either. i opted for the geardrive as the life of them out does timing chains and i thought it would be a good investment for longevity of the timing system, and also the performance benefits. im open to discussion here as id like to find the pros and cons of it.
thanks for your advice so far aswell.
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I'm not an expert on gear drives, but i have heard lots of peoples experiances and they have been quite mixed. I have allways run chains, and never ever had problems. If you insist on running a gear drive, atleast run the best you can find. It is supposed to be the single idler type, not the duel idler. Others here have had problems with certain types, so do a search and see what you can find. It was only about 3 weeks ago..
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i want both the performance and i dont mind the noise either. i opted for the geardrive as the life of them out does timing chains and i thought it would be a good investment for longevity of the timing system, and also the performance benefits. im open to discussion here as id like to find the pros and cons of it.
thanks for your advice so far aswell.
You dont realy need the gear drive unless your are going to run BIG horse power. I have one in a MRK1 cortina drag car only because the engine builder told me it would be a good idea ( it has 700 odd rwhp) and my street car has the good old timing chain( it has 450 rwhp) again and after what happened to it with the gear drive i am considering taking it out of the Cortina. This just my experience with them the and it was the singel idler Milodon type so it was not cheap,and most people italk to theres day all say the same thing, if you whant to drag race go the gear drive if you whant reliabilty go with the timing chian.
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Yep, concur with above statements. And yes, you're probably thinking "bugger", I just forked out $300. You can sell it in the paper.

I just removed my JP Performance gear drive 2 weeks ago. It had been in for 2 years and was starting to make some suspicious abnormal sounds. After removal, the faces on the idler gears and crank sprocket were chewed out. I caught it before some major damage could have occurred, ie: teeth letting go, metal bits in sump etc.

I was ONCE under the impression that they were the only way to go, but this is only for a RACE/DRAG car, not a daily driver OR a car definitely only driven small trips on weekends. One website says they're good for a lifetime but that's absolute BS IMO. Yes you can fit one, but be prepared to remove it later.

One other point mentioned previously is that the noise/vibration is transferred to the crank and bearings and doesn't do you any favours when driven hours at a time. Recommend a Rollmaster double row 9 keyway chain, only $100.

Here's some pics of my chewed out gear drive.
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from my research i've found that geardrives in cleveland street motors is a bad idea...
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TruBlu351, i wonder if that altered your cam timing much with that wear?
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