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Old 11-24-2004, 23:16   #1 (permalink)
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Problems starting when hot...

Hi guys,
Having some problems with my cleveland starting when it is hot...running at 11.5 compression and i have been told that this is most likely the problem...
What is the best way of getting around this, a gear reduction starter?
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Old 11-24-2004, 23:25   #2 (permalink)
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Hi guys,
Having some problems with my cleveland starting when it is hot...running at 11.5 compression and i have been told that this is most likely the problem...
What is the best way of getting around this, a gear reduction starter?
Thanks

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Are you having problems with it firing or cranking over?
11.5:1 makes no difference in cranking. If it cranks slow, you may need to fit new sintalite bushes to your shaft ends on the starter motor. It is quite easy to do. When they wear out, it lets the guts ark out on the outer windings and cranks real slow.(especially when hot).
If so, it is a $5.00 expense.
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Old 11-24-2004, 23:34   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Problems starting when hot...

Yeah it is cranking over but quite slowly...it always cranks slowly, but when its hot it has trouble actually sparking...
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Old 11-25-2004, 02:59   #4 (permalink)
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check how hot your coil is getting?
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Yeah it is cranking over but quite slowly...it always cranks slowly, but when its hot it has trouble actually sparking...
A new starter works wonders. Just fitted a new mini starter and it cranks about twice as fast! About $200.

But when trying to start when hot it sometimes takes about 5 sec to fire up.
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Old 11-25-2004, 18:51   #6 (permalink)
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If you are running a Bosch starter toss it in the bin and get a clapper or a gear reduction unit. I replaced three bosch units before I woke up and changed to a clapper.
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Old 11-25-2004, 21:51   #7 (permalink)
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All XD's, even 6 cylinder ones, crank slowly when they are hot. I had this problem with an old 4.1 S Pak and the auto electrician sold me a set of heavy gauge battery leads. Never had a problem again.

Of course, these leads didn't go with the car, and now provide current to the 351 ESP
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The gear reduction starters are awesome, best money you could spend. I'm sure that will fix it.
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I had that problem when my ignition timing was to far advanced!
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The gear reduction starters are awesome, best money you could spend. I'm sure that will fix it.
agreed, i got one of those for my 302 clev, arfter replacing 2 Bosch starters i spent a little bit more ($60 more after trade in) and never had a problem.
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