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Old 07-23-2005, 21:44   #1 (permalink)
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water in the sump

Just picked up an Aussie 1976 Ford LTD... talk about a beast.

Anyway it hasn't been driven (or started) for a full year. It's all original - stock 351 etc.

Thought I'd give it a good once over before i fired her up... change oils, fluids, etc... bad news was the engine oil was milky mud. Call me "hopeful" but i was thinkin it may just have been from sitting around all year (condensation etc). It's never like that tho is it.

As i was draining the engine oil I thought i'd also top up the radiator... but as the radiator filled up... fresh water started coming out from the sump with the oil.

What do you reckon... head gasket? cracked block? something else?

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Old 07-23-2005, 22:07   #2 (permalink)
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bugger. that would spoil your day.

proberly a head gasget. you can only hope anyway.

is that the big rolls royce style LTD . cool
would make a top cruiser when its sorted.
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I'm seriously hoping it's the gasket

Yep, it's big luxury Ford style... recognisable by the automatic headlight covers... think of a 4 door Landau.

Photo's online soon.

It's gonna be a beauty when it's done
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Re: water in the sump

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I'm seriously hoping it's the gasket

Yep, it's big luxury Ford style... recognisable by the automatic headlight covers... think of a 4 door Landau.

Photo's online soon.

It's gonna be a beauty when it's done
I would take a look at the timing cover. Its probably rusted through at the back of the water pump, this would be my first port of call. Head gasket us less likely. You will have fun pulling it off with the power steer and air.

Great cars though. I have a tropical gold Landau with parchment leather and brown vinyl roof. Still has the Col Page Ford Super Dog (Footscray) dealer sticker in the rear window. Needs a bit of work but I love it to bits. Goes like the clappers.

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Yeah, 99% chance it is the timing cover. If it is coming through the head that fast then you have BIG problems.....
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Re: water in the sump

Yep, concur.

The timing cover plate behind the water pump rusted out on mine. It starts of with steam coming thru microscopic rust pit holes which then condenses in the oil. Then over time - of you let it, and especially leaving an engine sit - the flood gates can open.

It's close to the worst feeling when you pull your dipstick and its white.

Good advert to use a rust/corrosion inhibiting coolant in your engine.
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Hey thanks for the info! That would make sense... it's been sitting around for a year and the water went thru it pretty quick (with the engine not running).

I'm guessing that's gonna be an easier job than the head gasket.

How much do you reckon i could pick up a timing cover for?

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yeah ......
i didnt think of the timing cover plate but i could very well be.

my brother used to have an old gold Landau that used to drive a lot. cool car.
we should have kept it and fixed her up but it was pretty well worn.
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Yes I would have to agree with the timing cover, I just changed the cam in my 302 and found that the plate was way to thin. you can get new ones on ebay for about $100.
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One of these. Make sure it comes with a new crank seal and water pump gaskits in the kit otherwise you're just paying extra $.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....563988312&rd=1

Bit cheaper here

https://www.americanautos.com.au/cgi...ion=D0AZ6B070A
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