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Old 08-24-2002, 16:34   #1 (permalink)
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Where does the 5.0 come from?

What vehicle in the US was the falcon 5.0 engine sourced from? I'm interested for several reasons - general interest, I want to buy a vortech supercharger some time in the future, hop-up information ex USA etc.

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Old 08-24-2002, 17:42   #2 (permalink)
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i'd suggest mustangs mate. the original was a 302 ci in a 1969 mustang, before that they were 289 ci. it wasn't called a 5 liter( us spelling) until 1979. the first efi came in 1984 in the mustang gt but only in auto. the 5 speed was still carby. all 5.0's didn't get efi till 1986. they were all designated 5.0HO.
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Old 08-24-2002, 18:09   #3 (permalink)
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83?? to 93 stangs used this exact engine, EFi setup, EEC4 computer etc the only difference was hte plenum is turned around to give better clearance for the brake booster (its on the left side - our passenger side - in most US cars)
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nak302, do you mean the Boss 302 was in 69? The 5.0 litre 302w was an option in the 1968 XT so it must pre-date that in the US. Possibly as early as the 63 US falcon??
It's strange about the metric lingo, because the 66 XR series engines were specified in CID, as was the 69 XW, but the XT series had metric (3.1, 3.6, 5.0) spec engines.
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yes xt500 your right. the 302 first came out in mid 1968 mustangs.

the metric terminology didn't start (in the us) until 1979. the 1983 mustang gt, with the ho motor still had a 600cfm holley.

the 302 actually started life as 221ci in 1961 then became 260 ci which first saw life in the 1964 1/2 mustang with the option of the legendry 289ci. the ultimate 289 being K code.
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The engine in the falcon is not directly from the mustang. The mustang used TRW forged pistons from 1989 through to about 1992. Outwardly it may look like the mustang engine but the internals were different. I recall reading articles in Street Machine about the time they were introduced in the falcons, and I remember they were from a light truck (F150, bronco or something like that). But that's where my memory fades. Can anybody tie it down any further?

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Old 08-25-2002, 00:46   #7 (permalink)
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Do you mean the EfI mill we get here? The first lot that where eec4 are from Mustang [the 5Ltr never had eec5 in Mustangs] From then on it was sourced from the Explorer truck series which had the different type inlet similar to the Mustang Cobra. The mill had to be sourced from Explorer for the Mustang went o.h.c V8's [95/6] and eec 5..They stoped making the little Windsor Nov 2 years back..
I see an aftermarket co. is making them.Similar specs to R302 but capable of going 351 internals.Mainly stronger around the crank / block webbing and deck..From memory about $2,000+ U.S..
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the ohc engine didn't appear in mustang until 1996. in 1995 there were 3 versions of windsor. a HO, a cobra and the great 5.8 litre built by roush for the cobra r. i'm not aware that ford australia used the explorer due to the dfferent intake and throttle body. i do know that the 1994-95 cobra used gt-40 heads / induction. these were rated at 240hp which translates to about 185kw. we obviously didn't get this set up because at the time we only got the 165kw version which i'd assume was what the yanks called their HO motor (rated @ 215hp).
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I wonder why they didn't at least use the 150bhp 302 used in the Grand Marquis (oops that should have said Crown Victoria); it was after all a similar car and at one time was slated as a Fairlane/LTD replacement.
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The 302 actually came out for the 68 model year (which iirc actually starts in the latter part of the previous year) and was available in all sorts of Fords - Cougar, Fairlane, Falcon, Mustang etc.

There were a few HO injected outputs iirc, the earlier 225hp donks in the '5.0 Mustangs', then the 215's in the first of the new shape, difference was the newer ones used the T'Bird intake setup which was lower to fit under the bonnet.

After the 'Stang switched to the 4.6 Mod motor, the V8 Explorer was the only other vehicle to use the magic little Windsor.

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