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bernie · 09-10-2003, 04:44

Thanks for the advice, it pays to ask those in the know. I guess I am seeking some seat of the pants gains, which I spose would equate to the 200kw reigon. This is a daily driven car so extractors, a high flow exhaust, intake etc would be my starting point.
Would I need to be changing heads,cam,adding RR's, bigger throttle body etc to gain around the 190-200kw or can this be achieved using OEM ELXR8 series 1 and 2 components????.
Cheers

ebxr8240 · 09-10-2003, 06:04

What model car ???
Port heads esp exhaust, inlet "imo" aftermarket is better as they are designed after Gt40 type that was designed way back..Edelbrock or Trick Flow services have up graded there inlets,MAF & 24 Lp inj then 65 / 70mm throttle body 1:72 rockers after fitting good valve springs...

bernie · 09-10-2003, 17:03

Its a EL series 1. What prices would I be paying for an aftermarket intake and t/b, what brand of rr's and who do you recomend for porting of heads?
Cheers

EDXR8 · 09-10-2003, 18:46

You would probably make it to around 190-200kw with just exhaust, extractors, air filter and snorkle and a set of roller rockers. The Yella Terra ST2027's are bolt on roller rockers with higher ratio giving you more lift.

If you want any more than 200kw, you will have to start doing heads, intake, throttle body, injectors, MAF etc. which all cost a fortune.

XR8 Lamah · 09-10-2003, 20:14

I think its about $1k for a Trickflow upper and lower intake to suit. I think tb's are around the $500 - $600 mark. MAF's are similar pricing.

For an EL1, you'll prolly want to ditch the original heads as well ( depending on how far you want to go ).

Those are rough parts only prices.

Visit www.vpwmailorder.com or www.summitracing.com ( US Site, hideous shipping and handling charges, but a great range ).

blueoval · 09-10-2003, 22:24

I plan to just get a stock upper and lower intake and mildly port them both and maybe a set of ST2027's as a package and leave it. I'm not expecting it to hit 200kw (although I'd like it) but in then end it depends on application.

Can anyone recommend me in other directions apart from MAF and injector change? (dont think it will warrant the power to cost ratio?

I was thinking of a tweecer or unichip setup to refine things a little.

TwinPiston · 09-11-2003, 00:45

I don't know whether there is such a thing as minimal mods anymore. But hey with the EB I'd go Unichip, this tweecer thing just seems a little untried at this stage, i can't get one due to me having EEC V, so my next thing is Unichip. (refer mods in sig.)

Cheers

ebxr8240 · 09-11-2003, 01:59

If you are not prepared to change the whole inlet system esp maf, heads, inlet. Don't even think about it other than good exhaust / filter..
www.highperformanceworld.com.au for heads and inlet.They're in Parramatta..
TwEECer etc [as with any other ecu] is only good if you modify and need to change load setings etc Which means it should be done last, after mods..Until then the std eec does a good job..IMO with a 55mm maf is like breathing through a straw...

blueoval · 09-11-2003, 16:52

I agree with the MAF comment there ebxr8240.

Do the AU XR's have a bigger MAF than the E-series? If so, can the housing fit onto my car if I put my element into it?

B-1B · 09-12-2003, 01:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebxr8240

..IMO with a 55mm maf is like breathing through a straw...

I agree 100%.
I have TFS inlet,heads and 1.7 rockers fitted on an EL2 auto and got 155.5kw at the wheels.
Definatly needs a BIGGER Mass Air Meter.