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Old 10-02-2003, 19:01   #1 (permalink)
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Are the old windsors out of the X series falcons the same as the new ones found in the E and AU series?
How are the old ones performance wise can they cut it?
Can they be built up similar to the new winsdors?
The reason being A mate wants an 8 in his XF and windsors are supposed to fit better than a cleveland.
Does not want EFI?
IS an old cleveland a better choice?

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Old 10-02-2003, 19:42   #2 (permalink)
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i have a 68 model windsor
it makes 315 rwhp or 235rwkw
Does that cut it?
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you'll prob have to run an engine later model than your car so it can pass emissions test or maybe run gas
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Old 10-02-2003, 19:57   #4 (permalink)
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There the same but different, Most parts will interchange .research research research
Go get a good late model roller cam motor junk the fuel injection and bolt on your favorite carb and manifold .For bang for buck thats the way to go or you could spend $1000,s setting up the injection and tweaking it to get small gains.
The real bonus is in getting the roller cam .
Ive been told that the early cranks are better as they have the 28oz offset balance instead of 50oz in the late motors,but have to be matched with the correct flywheel/flexplate-harmonic balancer.

oop's I for got about ADR's Just by a early falcon and do what ever you want to the motor

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Old 10-02-2003, 22:52   #5 (permalink)
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It will be run with a carby for while until he can afford LPG or gets defected.
Never thought about running a 90's winsdor on a carby. Ditching the EFI is a good idea.
Are the heads/manifolds interchangeable. Will a carby manifold fit on injected heads?
How much power would be lost by running a carb instead of EFI?

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It depends on how big your engine bay is. Clevelands are a little bit bigger than the Windsors so you are going to have to look for some dimensions.
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If i run the windsor with a carby what should i do about controlling the dizzy?

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Fit a Mollery[sp] or early dist. I guess a ecu could still control this also. But complicate things..
Yes power is easier with roller cam and carb for sure !!!
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The manifolds will bolt on so theres a huge choice out there ,a dual plane like a weiand stealth would be good.
I think you need to change the distributor anything will do even points but what ever you use it has to have the hardened gear to work with the cam.

Also you will have to run an electric fuel pump unless you change the timming cover to an early one which has provisions to mount a mechanical pump.
Dump the serpintine belt and fit v belt pulleys
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Cool thanks guys
Ill check out prices today.

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