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Old 11-03-2002, 03:37   #1 (permalink)
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Stock Windsor Engine Mods?

Hey all,

I've got a stock ed xr8, and wanna do some work to it...
I spoke to rob herrod today at the extreme horsepower show in adelaide and discussed stroking the motor with him....he mentioned numbers up to 14 grand(including a rebuild) which is kinda outa my price range considering i paid 12 for the car. I was thinking maybe a cam, roller rockers and new manifold but thought i'd ask what the best thing to do is

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btw the motor has done 170 odd thousand
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go to your local ford dealer and ask for the ford motorsport catalouge it got all the go fast bits you'll need.
you can also try either buying a set of trickflow/elderbrock heads/manifold combiation (either company has head/manifold combos) also ford motorsport heads, try and use ford motorsport 1.7to1 roller rockers along witha ford motorsport cam f303(i think thats the number) its rev range is 1500-600rpm and works a treat
,get either a uni chip or a good chip(chiptourqe), 70mm throttle body, 70mm mass air meter from ford motorsport ,dont forget a good set of extractors(pacemakers) and twin high flow cats along with either a 3in single straight thru mandrell bent or twin 2.5in mendrell straight thru with a balance pipe just before the diff(personaly twins are better). it should see you round 265kw (193 rwkw) maybe a little more and get you down the quater in 13.5sec if not a little faster. the reason i no all this is i was going to do up a 5lt but i've set myself a harder chalange -do up a 4.0lt!
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Old 11-03-2002, 04:47   #3 (permalink)
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cheers for the input gm
i've got a question tho, how far can you go before you have to change or update the ecu. I was under the impression that the standard ecu do learn and can handle a certain amount of tampering but how much?

btw any idea on the prices on some of this stuff?
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Old 11-03-2002, 17:00   #4 (permalink)
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I understand with the older cars, the ECU doesn't learn THAT much. To get true results from your modifications a re-program/replacement is in order. However, if you don't want to fork out a grand for the chip and tuning, you'll notice small increases with a good zorst and induction.

Remember the old saying "More air, more fuel - need more spark", so if your going to do some upgrades on the intake, think about your dizzy/coil packs, whichever you use.

If you don't want to go original Ford parts, I can suggest: http://www.speed-technology.com for some great aftermarket EFI products. I especially reccomend the HAWK computer. I know a guy on the Gold Coast that'll install then test n tune your car on a dyno for less than $1300 all up. Then you've got a re-programmable computer, and don't have to fork out tons of cash to someone everytime you need a modification, cause the HAWK comes with it's own software. All you need is a laptop, and you can do it yourself. Also, they got a whole bunch of other things there which are pretty interesting.

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The EECIV on the EB/ED XR8 can learn very well. A large number of people in the USA are running in the 10's with the factory computer. Their learning capabilities are the same as the EECV on the EL-AU V8's.

As with the mods, how much are you willing to spend? There is a lot of good aftermarket parts out there, but they are not cheap.
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I was told if you're going to to a fair amount of mods you could use an ECU out of a EB GT. Don't know if they are still available from Ford.
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Consider::A GT40 type motor from Suburban Imports or similar with all the good stuff on. Make sure you get the inlet thats straight it can be tuned the other way to suit Falcon...

F303 has power from 3k rpm on. Crane 2031 or Trick Flow 1..These are dual pattern cams have more lower torque than alphabet cams [Ford B.E.F&X cams ..Anything under118 / 220 @ 50* inlet for lumpy but good torque and power from 2k rpm on..

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I was told if you're going to to a fair amount of mods you could use an ECU out of a EB GT. Don't know if they are still available from Ford.
The tuning probs that I'v ever had is when going to bigger maf, making sure its callibrated to the right injectors.. Most 70mm h.p Ford mafs are calibrated for 24's unless it's a Cobra with X3Z eec..
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Consider::A GT40 type motor from Suburban Imports or similar with all the good stuff on. Make sure you get the inlet thats straight it can be tuned the other way to suit Falcon...

F303 has power from 3k rpm on. Crane 2031 or Trick Flow 1..These are dual pattern cams have more lower torque than alphabet cams [Ford B.E.F&X cams ..Anything under118 / 220 @ 50* inlet for lumpy but good torque and power from 2k rpm on..

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btw I don't really wanna get another motor, i kinda wanna do something with the one i've got cheers for the stuff on the cams tho!
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Old 11-04-2002, 05:54   #10 (permalink)
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i reckon im looking to spend around 5 grand after i put on a decent exhaust, i've already got a custom(a bitta pipe) cold air intake and a k&n filter but thats about it
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