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Old 04-13-2005, 05:21   #1 (permalink)
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Windsor getting hot

I just brought a xp ute with a 302 windsor. The problem is its getting a little too hot. It has a 4 core radiator in it with a 16" thermo fan on it. It sits on 180 to 185 on highway but when u come to traffic lights it starts to move up to 200. I have checked bottom hose and it has a new thermostat in it. Radiator dont seem to be blocked. No water in oil. I noticed one thing that it has no vacuum advance hooked up. When hooked vacuum advance up it didnt make any diff. With a radiator that big and a thermo fan thats on all the time it shouldnt go anywhere near 200. Can anyone help.
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Old 04-13-2005, 16:28   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Windsor getting hot

Maybe consider changing your coolant to a premium solution. SOme of the cheaper ones can be junk.

Also, do you have the correct 302W 'stat in it? The C 'stat is often sold as a replacement, and can cause issues.

One last thing, does it have a shroud? You'd be amazed how these can keep it down.

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Re: Windsor getting hot

No the radiator dont have a shroud. I think it has a 160 thermostat in it. But used to run it without a thermostat didnt make any diff at all. I know that the thermostat thats in it just looks the same as the cleveland one.
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First thing then....put a shroud on it and see what happens
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Old 04-14-2005, 23:51   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Windsor getting hot

Is your fan one of those flat electric units with built on shroud? ie: like a typical Davis Craig one.

If so, they normally suck all their air thru from the front OK. Unlike an engine driven fan where it can suck air from the sides of the fan and not thru the core. So....if this is the case, I doubt fitting another shroud around your fan will create more airflow thru the core.

What condition is the core?
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Yeah it is a davie craig like fan. Had it on my 500 hp cleveland didnt have a problem. I think it just shitty windsors.
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Any chance the motor had the heads lifted not too long back? If so maybe whoever did the work put the heads gaskets on back to front. Blocks the water passages and a great way to cause overheating.
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Could be i have seen that done before. But usually when you do that it will blow water out the overflow when you stop the car. I was told it can be caused by cavitation. They said drill 2 1/16 holes in thermostat to overcome it. Dont know if this is true or not.
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Re: Windsor getting hot

But you say it happens at low rpm/ speed Right ???
Then it sounds like air is being sucked through side of fans if there is too much clearance...
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Old 04-15-2005, 08:13   #10 (permalink)
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Do you reckon a pair of au fans would fix it
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