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Looking to upgrade my 1995 T-bird

My car has a 4.6L V8 in it, thing is they dont make a whole lot of aftermarket parts for my 1995 T-bird, but my 1994 mustang GT 5.0L HO has tons, is there anyway to modify the performance parts of a 4.6L mustang to fit my T-bird?

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Re: Looking to upgrade my 1995 T-bird

Where to Start....hmm.
The Mustang '96-up 4.6L and the '95 Tbird 4.6L are vastly different.
The intake manifolds are different material and inlet configuration,the cylinder heads are much better on the '96-'98 4.6L's,and the overall layout of the engine is different. There are some parts that will work-cams for example,but there are many limitations to the older F4AE cylinder head castings.You can make that car quick,but it'll take a bit more work than it would for equivalent times out of a Mustang,and it'll take a bit of "massaging" to get some of the parts to work.But it is possible.
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Re: Looking to upgrade my 1995 T-bird

what cam would you prefer for my car and what is the lift of it?

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1995 Ford Thunderbird LX
4.6L V8 281ci
automatic

1994 Ford Mustang GT
5.0L V8 302ci HO
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what cam would you prefer for my car and what is the lift of it?
It all depends on how far you wanna take it. What gearing do you plan on running? How high of a stall speed converter can you deal with? Is the trans the stock piece? Gonna leave the stock shortblock in it?
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Re: Looking to upgrade my 1995 T-bird

yeah i am using the same block, i thought of boring my engine out atleast .020" over(if i can ever afford it) and a stroke increase, i believe the person who had the car before me put a high stall torque converter in it, although i am not entirely sure, and i was thinking of putting a bigger rearend in it

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yeah i am using the same block, i thought of boring my engine out atleast .020" over(if i can ever afford it) and a stroke increase, i believe the person who had the car before me put a high stall torque converter in it, although i am not entirely sure, and i was thinking of putting a bigger rearend in it
Using that block isn't the best of ideas-it's only got crossbolts on the front 4 mains-the rear main is unsupported. You'll want a '96-up block,or even better an aluminum block from a '93-'98 Lincoln Mark VIII ,a '96-'01 Cobra,or an '02-'03 Explorer. They're almost 80 lbs lighter,and that makes a huge difference in the handling of the car.The transmissions in the '94-'95 model Tbirds are the worst 4R70W's ever built-you'll need to upgrade that unit to a better built piece,or a '99-'02 4R70W from another car(Crown Vic,Mustang,etc). Stroking a modular is a bad idea unless you plan on going the 32V route-the 2V cylinder heads cannot properly support the extra flow from the extended stroke.
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Re: Looking to upgrade my 1995 T-bird

anything i can do that doesnt mean getting a new block and transmission, i dont really have that kind of money

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anything i can do that doesnt mean getting a new block and transmission, i dont really have that kind of money
Ok,if you wanna pep it up on a budget-here's one way to do it.
3.73 gears and traction-lok carrier for the 8.8" rear that's in the car.
~3200 rpm stall speed torque converter
Leave the stock cams in it
Get a good flash tuner...(SCT XCal2)
That trans is gonna eventually break(even in daily driving) if it hasn't had the intermediate clutch upgraded in it at some time.
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12.28@109.57

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Re: Looking to upgrade my 1995 T-bird

About how much is all of that?

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1994 Ford Mustang GT
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About how much is all of that?
3.73 trac-lok is approx $600
Torque converter is approx $550
Flash tuner is approx $400
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1997 Thunderbird
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12.28@109.57

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