The Typhoon Clutch Fix - Page 2 - Ford Forums

Headache · 04-07-2005, 18:23

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Originally Posted by chich

I must admit Flinty's pulled a nice furry bunny out of the good old Page Ranking hat. 'Provide us with more real world experience...'. Yeah whatever... I suppose this friendly gesture is supposed to make a few Typhoon owners warm and fuzzy so they can forget that their standard Typhoon is slower than the neighbours $15K cheaper xr6 turbo.

So go buy the xr6T. No-one is forcing you to waste $15k of ur money.

It's all about choice.

Hypnodoc · 04-07-2005, 19:53

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Originally Posted by Headache

In gear- it's a decent car to punt around in.. but it can't top the GT power wise, and lets not go there eh..

I've got a Blueprint one of them to, edit the Typhoon, even without bigger injectors, then, GT no chance, the V8 sounds a hell of a lot better though.

Headache · 04-07-2005, 21:28

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Originally Posted by Hypnodoc

I've got a Blueprint one of them to, edit the Typhoon, even without bigger injectors, then, GT no chance, the V8 sounds a hell of a lot better though.

Doc, I was refering from a Ford standpoint....

Marketing wish wash...

R33GTR · 04-07-2005, 22:17

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Originally Posted by Headache

So go buy the xr6T. No-one is forcing you to waste $15k of ur money.

It's all about choice.

That misses the point. The Typhoon is supposed to be the hotted up version of the XR6T, like the GT is to the XR8. Sure it has lots of good bits on it and it is probably good value for those bits, but it is SLOWER than the XR6T and that is simply inexcusable. What makes it even worse is how easily and cheaply people are getting good performance out of both the XR6T and the Typhoon. So what the hell is wrong with FPV? Surely they have a bigger budget than APS or Nizpro. Surely, after spending f#<k knows how much money on developing the thing they could at least have made it perform as well as the car it is based on? Sadly it seems that FPV are as good at making fast road cars as FPR are on the racetrack

Hypnodoc · 04-07-2005, 23:01

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Originally Posted by R33GTR

That misses the point. The Typhoon is supposed to be the hotted up version of the XR6T, like the GT is to the XR8. Sure it has lots of good bits on it and it is probably good value for those bits, but it is SLOWER than the XR6T and that is simply inexcusable. What makes it even worse is how easily and cheaply people are getting good performance out of both the XR6T and the Typhoon. So what the hell is wrong with FPV? Surely they have a bigger budget than APS or Nizpro. Surely, after spending f#<k knows how much money on developing the thing they could at least have made it perform as well as the car it is based on? Sadly it seems that FPV are as good at making fast road cars as FPR are on the racetrack

IMHO the Typhoon eats the T in 3 areas.

1. It isn't speed limited to 220
2. It has better brakes and handling
3. If both cars are stock the Typhoon leaves the T beyond 100kph.

Also the reports coming back now from cars with a few klm's on them suggest that after they do a few klms they pick up about 20rwkw, so they get quicker as they loosen up, all we have had to go on for standard cars are motoring journo reports with new or extremely low klm cars.
Had a T, got a Typhoon, definately worth the extra dough, pity about the clutch but!

Headache · 04-07-2005, 23:49

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Originally Posted by R33GTR

That misses the point. The Typhoon is supposed to be the hotted up version of the XR6T, like the GT is to the XR8. Sure it has lots of good bits on it and it is probably good value for those bits, but it is SLOWER than the XR6T and that is simply inexcusable. What makes it even worse is how easily and cheaply people are getting good performance out of both the XR6T and the Typhoon. So what the hell is wrong with FPV? Surely they have a bigger budget than APS or Nizpro. Surely, after spending f#<k knows how much money on developing the thing they could at least have made it perform as well as the car it is based on? Sadly it seems that FPV are as good at making fast road cars as FPR are on the racetrack

If we only measured straight line performance from the 1/4 mile, then yeah, the T might just be as quick or quicker, hey, I was severly un-impressed by the straight line speed of the Typhoon.. And I think it's as laggy as buggery..
But as a package, it's more than 1/4. In gear, it's FASTER than a T. 80-120 etc. 4th gear from 20kph is a doddle, take off from 2nd if you feel the need to.. top end aswell..
As a drivers car, the Typhoon is a better package, eg brakes, suspension etc..

I don't disagree with you... but it's a different driving experience, and who buys a heavy Typhoon for dragging down the 1/4 mile??

stang65 · 04-08-2005, 00:12

I`ll bite on this one ,like it or not it`s all about the quarter.
Anyone that says otherwise is fooling themselves.The HSV boys know what its about and how to give their loyal customers results.

How often is the average joe gonna take their car to a race track to test the handling/brakinng etc.

Shame on Ford and anyone else that things it`s not about the quarter.Shit if it`s doing laps why edit it you will get up to your top end eventually.

stang65 · 04-08-2005, 00:21

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Originally Posted by Hypnodoc

IMHO the Typhoon eats the T in 3 areas.

1. It isn't speed limited to 220
2. It has better brakes and handling
3. If both cars are stock the Typhoon leaves the T beyond 100kph.

Also the reports coming back now from cars with a few klm's on them suggest that after they do a few klms they pick up about 20rwkw, so they get quicker as they loosen up, all we have had to go on for standard cars are motoring journo reports with new or extremely low klm cars.
Had a T, got a Typhoon, definately worth the extra dough, pity about the clutch but!

Hyp,
Don`t take this personally, but i am a little dissapointed in you(not that it really matter coz i only know you over the net.)but
1)The T isn`t speed limited with the edit.

2)You can put better brakes and handling on the T

3)The quarter is what matters otherwise why do we grab Modern,wheel and every other car magazine to see what these cars do down the quarter.

At the end of the day what Ford was supposed to deliver was a ball tearer that should have been faster than the T and the GT it didn`t and even though I don`t own a Typhoon I am dissappointed in Ford.Ford should reflash the Typhoon and give it the power to be undisputably quicker than the T. I am talking high 13`s down the quarter anything less is an insult.

Hypnodoc · 04-08-2005, 00:40

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Originally Posted by stang65

Hyp,
Don`t take this personally, but i am a little dissapointed in you(not that it really matter coz i only know you over the net.)but
1)The T isn`t speed limited with the edit.

2)You can put better brakes and handling on the T

3)The quarter is what matters otherwise why do we grab Modern,wheel and every other car magazine to see what these cars do down the quarter.

At the end of the day what Ford was supposed to deliver was a ball tearer that should have been faster than the T and the GT it didn`t and even though I don`t own a Typhoon I am dissappointed in Ford.Ford should reflash the Typhoon and give it the power to be undisputably quicker than the T. I am talking high 13`s down the quarter anything less is an insult.

Hi Stang.
Mate horses for course, I reckon theres more to driving than hurtling down the 400 metre strip, not that I disagree that the quarter mile is definately a benchmark and as I said in the post I think with a few klms on them the Typhoons do loosen up.
As far as the speed limiters go I do disagree. The T will start to surge at 220, whereas the Typhoon will run to 250, until you remove the limiter, to verify this you only have to look at the programmes in the software and up hill down dale my T would begin to surge at 220, the GT gets the same surge at 250 and I've been that speed in both of the cars. Having siad that I do agree that FPV could have put some more grunt into the Typhoon, but I'm guessing the series 2 Typhoon is gonna be a killer

KNG-40L · 04-08-2005, 02:39

Actually i would agree on what Stang65 has to say and the reason for that would be cause when you buy a car of this stature ''performance'' you would expect it to have a mighty punch especially when it has 550nm of torque to play with which something FPV is using as a marketing tool to sell there product to us. If a vehicle of this calibre only seems to pull a best time of 14 flat which JUST makes it faster then the T and maybe on par with the GT why label it a PERFORMANCE car which it doesnt seem to do that!

Obviously when the aftermarket boys fiddle with it they will produce some awesome figures but there is people who would want to buy a fast car stock from factory without doing any sort of mods to it. I agree its not all about the straight line that plays a role but its the overall package which counts and ford have always had a pretty good overall package, though ford have been lacking in the straight line department which they need to improve and that we all know is something were suffering in. The typhoon will be better vehicle over the T when it comes to better features such as brakes, suspension and driveline which is why your paying the 60g tag.

The typhoon is a fantastic looking vehicle with a few touches to lift the power war in the 6 department and indeed a real head turner for any car enthuasist but when hsv are achieving times like flat 13's and were just or maybe dipping in that bracket i do believe that PERFORMANCE is some what a slight worry. As for the clutch it is a shame that this has occured and exposed to the public which FPV is copping some negative criticism about but mechanical mistakes do happen in the automotive industry which sometimes arent picked up earlier.