Headache

For me, it's once every month or two... and 'top end' in these events aren't 200kph+, more like 120kph.

it'll be edited for better response down low, and more midrange punch.

I did say they were too slow....

I don't disagree-they are not what they should be, just sayin they aint worth the bagging they are recieving..

 

Tornado

What a load of Frog sh!t..
The F6 will blow any Manual T away down the 1/4 and you all know it ....**** me there has only been 80 sold to date and most of them are parked up with dud Clutches and that will soon be in the past.
I agree that there are some reports that vary in performance and as such reports are that some go like Hell and some need to be shot.... This also applied to the T's

WTf is wrong with people now days ???? BAG BAG BAG BAG I'd swear I was on the LS1 site ..but then again the LS1 boys show more respect for the F6 than the Ford boyz here.

Let me say this:
Ford was never going to release some 370kw ...Why? Cos there would be too many do gooders (and GT owners) up in arms and the government may well of considered setting restrictions so why would they tempt fate?

Consider these facts:
Why up the Con rod when the STD T can run 270FWkw no problem?
Why Add an engine Oil Cooler when the STD T and many Modded T’s don’t have a problem @ 270FWkw?
Why is the Auto not strong enough when a T with 270+ FWkw is ok and it’s only when you get to about 265RWkw’s the Auto plays up?

Why make a Bigger after cooler when the T’s are getting 300FWkw’s with a STD cooler?
Why run with 2 CIA’s when you can pull 270FWkw’s with a STD T?

Need I go on any more?

Ford ****ing knew they were building a Vehicle to allow the masses to “play” with and as such handed it to the Public with all the running gear to Blow any T, GT or HSV away with nothing but an edit………………………………And still keep the Do Gooders at arms length with the Government as Ford have no control on what we the public do………………..

Tell me what Vehicle out in the market place will come close to these F6’s now and even more so when the Auto is fitted?

What does it cost to strip a T down and add the running gear to math the F6?
What does it cost to get a GT into the low 12’s?
What will you spend on a HSV to get it to match the F6.

Wake up and smell the Roses …Ford have handed us a monster and kept the public and the Government happy (even the GT owners for that matter) But there is no way any GT will match the F6 $ for $ to get 300+RWkw’s without you spending at least another $10k on top of what it cost to get the same from a F6….. FACT

Even now with the edit the GT can’t catch the Turbos in STD dress so Game Over!!!!!

1/4 mile, handling, looks, BANG FOR BUCK, I don’t believe anyone could or would find anything better.

Finally the Clutch……Well ****kkkkkk me the Circlip in mention is no bigger than your fingernail and was an ADDED extra that FPV decided they would add to the same Clutch that is in the GT40 and a few other High powered vehicles.
The Clutch itself is rated well over the 550nm the F6 has been advertised to produce and way above what Ford needed to fit to meet the spec and again this was for us rev heads to handle the power they knew we would run through it.
Rear my lips… NO CLUTCH HAS FAILED due to Power related slippage.

Bloody David Flint Knows Hypnodoc has an Edit and he can read post knowing Doc is adding injectors so stuff me gently he even knows that doc will be punching above the 300rwkw belt so he asks him to do some Clutch testing for Ford…….HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! David wants the F6 to become the Aussie Cult car and it will.
I’m just as Pissed off as the next bloke about the Clutch delays and have even considered cancelling my order due to lack of communication from FPV but when you sit back and think about it ……WTF can you buy to match it?????????????????

For those who care I believe the Clutch issue has been fixed and I say this as the Build date of My Tornado has been shifted twice this month and each time to a earlier date indicating full production is due to start very soon.
In fact I would suggest the First F6 Tornados will leave the Plant in the first week of May.

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BDAZLA

very well said. Some excellent points made. A nice possitive attitude has definately helped ease my pain.
Thank you

Headache

yep, wot he said...

Tornado, how in begeezus did u get a delivery date??? hell, mine better be on the same boat.............................

R33GTR

I dont know it will beat a T. I have never seen any figures to prove it. I dont expect FPV to release the car with 370 kW. But 300 - 310 ....why not? What does it cost to match the F6 down the 1/4 with a T? er nothing at all, in fact you have to SPEND MONEY AND MODIFY the F6 to match the T! Same goes for the HSV in SPADES! I dont want to HAVE to modify a brand new car to get it to go. If I'm going to modify then I'll buy second hand. What do you think Ford are going to say when something breaks on your modded F6? MAYBE they will fix it under warranty, but they sure as hell dont have to. Frankly i am not keen on spending the best part of 60K for a "perfomance car" then having to spend even more on it to actually make it perform, and void my warranty in the process. I probably sound bitter here, but I am a Ford fan, and I expected great things from the F6. I have a turbo six and I know how much potential the F6 has, being a 4 litre (as opposed to my 2.6) but ,well i am extremely dissapointed. I really want to buy a QUICK Ford STANDARD, but to be honest I have started looking at R34 GT-R's on the net.

Tornado

If you think the T is quicker than an F6 well Buy one simple .............
Im a bit tired of Ill informed people making claims that are just crap maybe the R34 GT is for you so Good luck.

Then while your busy listenging to all the carp and making claims that the T is quicker than the F6 try asking someone "Who" might know like Simon GTP-330...... then while your at it take a look at the latest Motor mag!!!!
1st F6
2nd GT
3rd HSV
If you dont like it? great everyone to their own but for crist sake give it a rest on the F6.....

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KNG-40L

TORNADO the only reason why people are so ill informed cause most people wont have the opportunity of experiencing the many attributes that the f6 could offer. I understand its different to make judgements just by reading different reviews and word of mouth but what you see or might hear at first doesnt appeal then obviously people would make various negative statements about the f6.

The clutch issue is a let down which is the main reason the f6 is copping a bad image but in the end all will be resolved hopefully. As for performance a car that has 270kw and 550nm of torque Apparently can only pull a flat 14?? how does that work out? Is it the weight?, Has to be run in? just doesnt make sense. Of course we all had high expectations but surely this thing must be a rocket in stock form!

Hopefully after all of this the F6 will be a real FPV-WPN and really give it to HSV!!!

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bossxr8

The problem is the injectors and Ford not wanting it to outpower the GT. Simply the F6 has no top end grunt. It makes bags down low but out on the strip once the GT gets up into its power band it will walk away from an F6. The boost has been tapered off above 4500rpm cause the injectors are too small and to keep the power below the GT.
Add a set of injectors and an edit and its a totally different story but the fact is the F6 should have been quicker standard than it is.

KNG-40L

BOSSXR8 doesnt that make sense then cause wouldnt it reflect bad on the GT if the F6 could outperform it on the straight line so obviously ford would have to slightly detune or decrease its power abilities incase the F6 steps all over the GT.

Well whatever the excuse or reason might be im sure it can be much quicker on the straight line in stock trim.

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Hypnodoc

I have had a love -hate affair with the Grey Ghost (typhoon) that I never had with The Boss (GT) this is mainly because the car was doughy below 2500 and over 4500 where everything seemed to stop, then there was the fact that the Typhoon didn't appear to be what FPV had said it would in all the pre-release hype, then the clutch issue arrived. But when I put my emotions to one side I think that there are benefits in both cars. In my opinion, standard, the GT is on a par performance wise with the Typhoon, plus the GT looks and sounds better. Then when the ghost was having the clutch done I was given a GT series 1 manual to drive, this car had an extra air snorkel a full DiFilippo system including extractors and an xcede fitted by Bill Lee in WA, the Grey Ghost had the following mods.

3 inch dump pipe
3 inch high flow cat
Twin 2.5 Mandrel bent sysytem
K&N Filter
Xtreme Edit.

Sorry boys, the GT wouldn't get a look in at any speed from 0 to 250 and I don't even fit the injectors until tomorrow.
Having now been in another Typhoon with the bigger injectors fitted, all I can say to the knockers of the Typhoon (most of whom have never even been in one), is this. Power and Performance wise without spending a poultice on superchargers or twin turbos and devaluing the GT to buggery by doing so: If you like rediculous speed and power, go the edited upgraded Typhoon: If you like the rumble and the bulge and to struggle against the modified offerings of the dark side, go the GT. I do think the extra weight of the engine in the GT gives it a better directional advantage over the Typhoon at high speed as well
Say What You Will This Is Just My Qualified Personal Opinion

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