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Old 03-23-2003, 18:17   #11 (permalink)
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sounds like some great figures, what about driveline and warranty issues?
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sounds like some great figures, what about driveline and warranty issues?
No doubt it will put more wear on the driveline but i think if you compare the same power from a stroked V8 it wouldn't exert as much force due to the progressive nature of turbo's.
Of idle the turbo needs to boost so power comes on when the driveline is already moving unlike a V8 where it's instant bottom end torque from idle.

I'm curious to know how much boost this new piggy back chip is unleashing. To be honest for a daily driven car i would leave it to around 10psi for durability. A stock engine can generally withstand about 12-14psi before need forged pistons and balancing.

I have to say i'm glad Ford have tapped into the turbo market tunability as well as there legendary heritage of V8 powered sedans. Best of both worlds i say.
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Holy shit

Thats very impressive power, esp so early in the development life of the things..

I havea few questions, some have been asked already and some havn't but ill repeat them all anyway..

1. What kind of 0-60, 1/4 mile times does/should this kind of power endow the xr6t with.

2.whats the consequences for the gearbox/drivetrain components and how is the warranty affected.

3.What kind of fuel consumption is expected, are we talking Litres per kilometer here or what?.

4. If this is stage one spec's, how much power is stage two going to have?

5. With these mods, and other mods what is the realistic estimates of the ultimate max of the xr6 engine's power in roadgoing form?

6. How might this engine perform in racing conditions.

7. How much TOURQUE is liberated with these mods

The way this baby's coming along we arnt going to need a GTHO, cos the xr6T will Kick it's arse unless its got 450KW's or somestupid amount of power.
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I'm curious as to how you are increasing boost to 10+ psi if all the extra ECU is running is the two additional injectors.

Isn't the boost limit a factor of the Blackwood ECU?

You must be getting around this someway, otherwise your factory ECU would be going apeshit with all these extra inputs that don't all match up???
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1. No idea. The Morosso Power Calculator or Eastern Creek would be a good bet to answer this question.
2. Since we didn’t design the drivetrain and don’t have any specs we cannot determine it’s life with the current power output. But you can rest assured it will be less then when it is running stock boost.
3. Fuel consumption is based primarily on the power output which is based on your right foot :) If driven sedately fuel consumption should be stock since you will be in closed loop mode and cruise conditions.
4. Stage 2 has not been determined yet.
5. A factor of safety is usually built into stock components. But since we have no data on the engine’s internal parts we cannot determine what boost this engine can safely sustain for long periods of time.
6. The current tune is conservative which is based on the air/fuel ratios and ignition timing used. However a street engine and race engine are 2 totally different things and we cannot give you any accurate information as to the use of this engine under sustained power for long periods of time.
7. Torque cannot be measured by any chassis dynamometer to any useful accuracy. Only an engine dyno can tell you that. Ie. we don’t know.

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Yes a solution to fooling the stock computer has been found. Can I tell you how? No I can’t :)

But we must give credit to the engineers down at Ford. They threw in a few clangers that had the guys scratching their heads for a while hehehe :)
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sounds like some great figures, what about driveline and warranty issues?
I would take a guess a thing called personal responsibility on drivetrain
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Good stuff guys, the XR6T is well on the way to becoming one of the most popular ozzie performance cars out there. The aftermarket industry should be buzzing soon with performance upgrades!

Just an observation, engineers from both Ford and aftermarket companies seem to think that after 300kw's or so stronger internals are needed, such as rods, valves etc

Unigroup, has your company done any upgrades for any other BA model, or plan to?
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I would take a guess a thing called personal responsibility on drivetrain

Exactly!Though the way turbo's deliver there power it can be more gentle on power train...
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Good result, looking forward to seeing the true potential, specially with someone who starts looking at the weight issue as well.

what sort of $ / kw are we looking at, give the mods should be quite reasonable

would love to see the gains on some fi on the xr8 as well
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