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Old 11-25-2004, 14:51   #1 (permalink)
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302 Boss

I have the opportunity to get my hands on a 302 Boss motor... I wouldn't be able to use it, as yet because I want my sedan numbers to match. But I was thinking of storing it and using it on my Coupe, when I get it.

Which is better in ppl's opinion:

351 Clevo? or the 302 Boss?

and what are the major differences?. I know that the boss uses the clevo heads and is a smaller block but that is about the extent of my knowledge as far as motors go. My bro is the real mechanic of our family and it's from him that I can get it.

Is it worth laying my hands on?
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Re: 302 Boss

Personally I'd go the 302 Boss. Is it complete with the inlet manifold??


I found this on the web:
302 Boss
One of Ford's most famous engines, the 302 Boss was a hybrid produced in '69-70 to compete in Trans-Am racing. They featured canted-valve heads (Cleveland style) solid lifter cams, stamped rockers with threaded, adjustable studs and guide plates, four-bolt mains, special rods, and forged pistons.

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This is certainly one of Ford’s all-time super engines. The 302 BOSS (1969-70) proved to be very competitive in 5 liter TramsAm racing. It featured big breathing heads with "canted" valves, mechanical cam, stamped rocker arms with a threaded adjustable stud, push rod guide plates, forged crankshaft, 4-bolt main caps (#2, #3, and #4 journals), beefy con rod with spot-face for 3/8" bolt and forged pistons.
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Old 11-25-2004, 18:04   #3 (permalink)
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Re: 302 Boss

There is a really good article on Boss 302s, Fords Trans-Am effort and in particular Allan Moffats '69 Boss in the current Australian Muscle Car magazine. It's an interesting read.
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Re: 302 Boss

hmm.. sounds nice. I'm leaning towards getting it.
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Re: 302 Boss

Firstly ,is it a genuine Boss 302?If it was then it would be worth a small fortune due to the rarity of such a beast.I would have to tjink it is probably a copy of a Boss.IE windsor bottom end with a set of cleveland heads on top.The original Boss 302 actually used 4v heads on top of what was a beefed up 302 windsor bottom end.Great motor if you are into nostalgia and that but the reality was that the 4v heads had waaaayyyyy to much port volume for such a tiny motor and suffered from a noticeable lack of low down grunt.Even 351 motors with these heads have issues with overly large port dimensions.If you know a little about velocity and modern ideology of modern port design then you will probably know that smaller is usually better in most cases.
A better option would be the use of a set of 302 clev heads on top of a windsor bottom end. If you wanted something a little different then the hybrids like this are certainly far and few between . my opinion is somewhat different from the others.Give me the cubes of a 351 anyday of the week.The extra cubes generate significantly more torque than an engine that has 50 cubes less.
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Re: 302 Boss

what he said ^

if it is a genuine boss motor it would be worth heaps, especially if still attached to the chassis


dear santa, for chistmas i would like a grabber blue 1970 mustang with the boss 302 option, shaker scoop, slats, 15" chrome magnums, deluxe interior................

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boss hog mate, go the boss.
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Go the BOSS, i did twice.
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Old 11-27-2004, 16:11   #9 (permalink)
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Re: 302 Boss

as far as power is concerned the boss will never match the 351 especially for torque,,the clevo will respond to upgrades better too,,500 hp is becoming easy now days to extract from a 351,,

But a boss would be something different
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Old 11-28-2004, 20:22   #10 (permalink)
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Re: 302 Boss

Sorry guys, not an original. 302 block made into a Boss with spare parts. Still-to-be-assembled IF I want it.
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