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Old 01-19-2003, 00:50   #1 (permalink)
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Question After advice on buying a new falcon...

Hey there, I'm 18 years old and looking for a new car soon. I've got a Laser at the moment but the size of the car is really getting on my nerves. What I'm really after is a EF/EL falcon, low k's and probably owned by someone that's taken care of it...someone not like me. Old lady or someone. Anyway I'll have about 12 grand to waste on one and just wondering what I should get, and what I should do to one with the amount of money I have in mind (12k).

What I'm thinking is that I pick up a decent GLi or Futura and do some mods to it. Definately want the car lowered no matter what I get and maybe some new or used 17" tyres and mags put on the car. Now here's the thing, I have no idea yet on prices and what I can really afford.

Where could I possibly pick up a decent ef/el falcon, new springs (to lower suspension), cheap tyres and mags, and a new Exhaust system for 12 grand?

Plus I wanna know, if I can get all this for under 12k, what else should I have done to the car with the remander of the cash.

Or if anyone has other idea's if I should scrap the extra mods (except lowering the car, you wont talk me out of that) and get maybe a decent fairmont or what???

I've heard about these government auctions but would 12k really get anything there? That's even if they still auction EL's/EF's...?

Really any advice or ideas on the subject would be much apreciated...

(oh and I live in Perth too...just so you know)

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Old 01-19-2003, 00:59   #2 (permalink)
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ELs and EF are a little too old for the govt fleet. Maybe one in a bluemoon.

I was thinking of buying one but Ive been informed if I was going to buy the 4L, I might as well buy the 5.0L as both these engines like a drink. You'll notice an awful difference in fuel from a laser to an ef. Ultimately its up to you, just be careful as 12K is a lot to an 18yr old.

But then again, to buy any car in your own name with an engine size like that will have the insurance companies heading for the hills.

Getting the car lowered will often become a problem for insurance if you go down that path. Personally I don't like it, it might look "ful-sik bro" on the road but then you've just lost most of its off road capacity. The difference to handling from lowering is at best negligible, and more psychological than actual.

Putting oversized rims on will default your insurance too - see the thread going by missxr.

Exhaust system will set you back maybe $1400 or more, depending on the brand (remus/wolf) and if you wish to extract it whilst your at it.

Upside is parts are cheap, its a good large distance car (providing you havent got it sitting 6cm off the deck). Ive got 2 jap cars and they cost me a nice mint for servicing and parts.

have a look at www.redbook.com.au for the depreciation specs for the model.

http://www.redbook.com.au/vehiclesea...p?key=FORD96MA

1996 FORD FALCON
EL Sedan GLi 4dr Man 5sp 4.0i (Rel. Sept)

average kms 120,000 - 150,000
trade in price guide* $6,200 - $7,800
national average price - private sale* $7,400 - $9,600
price when new (RRP) $29,594

be able to pull up an xr6ef for around 12k too, prolly in good nick but rounf the 160km mark.
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Yeah if you dont mind something with high kilometers i would be looking towards an EF/EL Fairmont Ghia. We had a companyone with 120 000 kms on on it, it was an 98 EL ghia and went for 12 grand, was looked after and never left the city.

I would keep my eye out for ex Orix fleet cars as they can be sometimes EL's.

If you really need help getting one just let me know and ill see what i can do for you.
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I just had a look at the database, i can pick you up and AU series 11 Forte with 80 000 kms for 15 grand, ill keep looking for E series cars.
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Here is anohter one

81,735 kms Confirm On Day Of Sale Compliance Date Make Model Description Registration No Odometer Registered Until VPA503 FORD 12/98 BURGUNDY, AUTOMATIC, 4.0 LTR, 6 cyl, Petrol, Multi-Point Injected FALCON, AU FORTE, Sedan Price Extras Aircond., Airbag, P/Steer, ABS, Cru. Cont, Cent.Lock, Cassette, Radio, Jack $12,200 (GST inc.)
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Old 01-19-2003, 01:20   #6 (permalink)
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Fuel is a big thing to me 2, if the EL really does eat the fuel over the AU, then I'd be inclinded to go the AU even though the EL looks better...I mean I could always get a good kit for it latter on down the track...

As for insurance, if I does cost too much I get it in my parents name but otherwise it isn't a big concern too me...

BigBadAu, that last AU at 12,200 wan't bad, are many of them at that price these days??
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Yes I see heaps of them at that price, some with high kms then this one though. Most of them being ex fleet cars have ABS and cruise control. If your lucky you might even get alloys depending on where you look for one.

If it was me i would be going for the AU, even thou the looks arent great, the technology is marginally better then the E series cars, and most EF's have had their day.
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A few personal opinions floating round here, but fair enough, everyone has them. My EF only has 120 thou on the clock, drinks less than my mates AU, and cost a hell of a lot less, which has enabled me to lower it, strap some big wheels onto it and do up the stereo and exhaust.

After driving the AU while my car was being serviced, I couldn't wait to get my car back. Once the radiator gets flushed to avoid heating problems, they can be excellent cars for the money. Only car I have kept for more than a year.

There, another personal opinion to add to the lot!

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I picked up a stock EF II in MINT condition last year for 11k, only had 100,000 k's on it and had dual fuel (saves me a heap in petrol) , and all the rest u'd expect from a GLi, I've had 0 problems with the car.
I got it from a private sale and the guy who owned it was an middle aged guy. www.autotrader.com.au is a godsend :D
and since then i've added 17"s and am planning to upgrade stereo next.
Also i've driven my Mum's AU1 Forte, and all i can say is, i prefer my car heaps more, even my dad said the same thing when he took my car up the shop.
test drive at a 2nd hand car dealer, THEN decide.
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The only problem is Tim that you can get an AU with less Kms pretty much cheaper then an EF/EL. As for the drive difference the first AU1 Forte i drove compared to my EL Ghia pissed all over it, had better steering, more power and better traction i thought.

And im not here to say that EF's are crap, you really have to buy what best suits yourself depending on what cash you want to burn.
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