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Old 08-06-2003, 14:53   #1 (permalink)
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BA Door Locking ?

Hi folks;
Was sitting in the gt and having a fiddle (with the controls), and Iam wondering if this is normal operation.

Inside vehicle, keys in ignition, door lock switch pressed, door opened from the inside by pulling on the door handles... ALARM sounds, and has to be deactivated by the manual overide (turn of on by 10 times).

Any experience of this, ideas.....

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Old 08-06-2003, 17:53   #2 (permalink)
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Sounds normal. With all the bells, whistles, alarms, dings that drivers now need to put up with, the alarm is an added "bonus". Still trying to get the sequence right to create a credible tune....

Something which is really annoying on the BA however is the silver coloured door lock indicator on the rear of the drivers side window. This allows potential thieves/vandels to tell if a car is left unlocked, without having to try the the actual door handle.

Back in the late 70s & 80s, they used to be a mushroom shape so you could lever them up with a coat-hanger if you locked your keys inside. Mind you thieves knew the same trick ...

Most European cars dont have these things anymore, so why the hell is Ford still putting them on ??
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A couple of reasons really.

1st, 99% of people use the keyfob exclusively to get in and out of the car - I know in 9 months of operation, the key has never been in the door lock of my BA. But what happens down the track when the battery in the keyfob finally goes flat if you're out in your car a couple of hundred miles from the spare keyfob? you've still got to be able to get in and out of the car.

Or - what if the car battery stuffs up and the electronics don't work - you still need to be able to get in and out of the car, a mechanical means of entry and egress is there on the drivers door (and the drivers door only) to give that ability regardless of any electronic failure.


You may also find - and I have no idea if this is true or not - that there is some rule in the ADR's or somewhere about emergency services having visible and/or mechanical means to access a car involved in an accident if and when possible.
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Re: BA Door Locking ?

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A couple of reasons really.

1st, 99% of people use the keyfob exclusively to get in and out of the car - I know in 9 months of operation, the key has never been in the door lock of my BA. But what happens down the track when the battery in the keyfob finally goes flat if you're out in your car a couple of hundred miles from the spare keyfob? you've still got to be able to get in and out of the car.

Or - what if the car battery stuffs up and the electronics don't work - you still need to be able to get in and out of the car, a mechanical means of entry and egress is there on the drivers door (and the drivers door only) to give that ability regardless of any electronic failure.


You may also find - and I have no idea if this is true or not - that there is some rule in the ADR's or somewhere about emergency services having visible and/or mechanical means to access a car involved in an accident if and when possible.
JR, I'm talking about the small silver nib at the top of of the internal door mouldings, not the internal handles.

If the nib is pressed down, you cannot get it back up by hand, you actually have to either use the door handles or the central locking button.

You would also find that if the battery went flat, you would have to use the door handles, not the nib which would be electrically driven.
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If the nib is pressed down, you cannot get it back up by hand, you actually have to either use the door handles or the central locking button.
I must say that I dont like this either. Even in my mums EL has those stupid locks. Couldnt they put on those nib things like the commodores have? there should be one on each door. And holdens "deadlock" system is quite impressive too. My opinion anyway
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I must say that I dont like this either. Even in my mums EL has those stupid locks. Couldnt they put on those nib things like the commodores have? there should be one on each door. And holdens "deadlock" system is quite impressive too. My opinion anyway
Because once you saw the interior of the VY (esp. Exec) you would have to lock the passenger IN the car and stop them escaping.
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