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Old 04-08-2003, 18:43   #1 (permalink)
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BAII vs Holden

Just wondering.. The BA is a relatively new model, I know its not all new, but there are lots of new bits on it, and the bones of this model will carry through to the next series of falcons mostly intact I would imagine.

At the moment the BA seems to rightly be unirating from a high place all over the holden in most aspects of the comparison results, except, sadly for outright performance and fuel economy issues. As far as I am aware, the commy is on its last legs for using it's current platform, and will have a new range of V6 engine's, and no doubt a much improved Gen3 or maybe 4, with no oil leaks and oval cyclinders or whatever other suprises they are known for, a new platform, which is more likely to be lighter than the current one and a suspension system which would be difficult not to have improved on.

What I would like to know is how well do you think the current BA with its pretty good looks, great interior, Nice handling, good engines yet porcine bodies will stack up against a completely new commy.. I mean The BA kicks arse now, but given that its a new model you'd be dissapointed if it didnt, esp when compared to its opposition, which is basically on its last legs designwise. The fact that the NEW falcon and the Current commy could both score 4.5 in the same test makes me wonder how well it will stact up against an improved 'dore.

I know the next model falcon will likely lose some weight, but its not likely that there will be many advances to the same degree that their was between AU and BA varients. Do you think this will be a short lived rein of glory for the BA ? Do you think the BA or BAII will have the stuff to keep taking it to Holden's new model when it gets here? What apart from weight loss is the likely changes to the BAII? Im sure holden will be using the BA at least in part to assess the sucess of their forthcomming Commy design..


BTW... whats after BAII does anyone know? whats supposedly the go? is it an all new coon platform or what? A FWD Streched widened straight I6 version of the mazda 6? It wouldnt suprise me what the pinheads might suggest, although I think they have learnt their lessons about trying to feed their accountant's great idea's to the general car buying aussie public. Im mainly thinking of the decision to drop the V8 from the falcon in those dark dark days gone by.. I'm sure uncle Geoff is much more in touch with the pulse of the blue viened aussie public than his predecessors, as the BA shows..


Just interested to hear your thoughts on this matter.

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I think RWD updated redesigned version of BA will be next Falcon. I seem to recall GP saying that if BA wasn't a success then perhaps a US or other maybe FWD version could be on the cards. Things are looking OK for BA so far.

Ford will need to be on the ball and not rest on their laurels with BA, and need to continue to go forward and improve even more,so that the General (and other manufacturers) is shown up.
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But you must also remmber that the falcon chassis has already been design for AWD set up as the Territory will be using it, but the commodore hasnt, does this mean that the commo will increase in weight when it is upgraded the same as they did from vs to vt ???

Rumor i have heard is that the nextr falcon will be based on the Jag platform ???
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Interestingly, i got some information that the bonnet of the R7 concept vehicle last year, would be the bonnet for BA2. Can't remember who i heard it from, but still its interesting.
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BAII will be right on the money design & appointments wise with it's Holden competitor.. Might even sneak ahead in some areas too..
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