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Old 06-24-2003, 09:26   #1 (permalink)
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Heyas,

I'm a car lover like yourselves, but not as experienced into the car scene as you guys seem to be. So I have a few questions.
Ok, well, I've had my ED Falcon Classic for about a year now and saved up a bit of money to put some mods on it to increase performance, except I have no idea what I'm looking for. Can any of you guys help point me in the right direction? ( I want to beat those damn VK drivers by FAR )

Everything is stock (I-6 4.0). Plus I just ticked it over to 100k a few weeks ago. Anyways, your help would be very much appreciated.
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Old 06-24-2003, 14:49   #2 (permalink)
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Well i guess on how much cash you have to spend.

Most 6 cyl guys here will say go the turbo if money is no object, and I would agree with them.

If money is an object, then I would look at the exhuast system from the cat back first up, then go a set of extractors and a hi-flow cat. Then go cold air induction, K&N filter and I think the guys are running EL or AU air boxes.


From there I would be looking at getting some head work done, eg - clean up the ports and get them flowing better, get a cam shaft to suit the head work, put bigger injectors on as to allow more fuel to get into the engine.

Changing diff ratios is another way some guys go to get more omph off the line.
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if your in Victoria, i'd be making a visit to Herrods or Mock's and see what they can do for you.

But id be getting a 2.5' exhaust with extractors, and a Stage 2 Cam put in to start with.

Then look at a higher diff ratio, say 3.45?
That will probably set you back about
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I agree with the above statements........

Exhaust first
Head work
Cam
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Just go the whole hog and get a turbo. (you'll probably kill yourself tho) :)
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is it just me or is turbos a bad option?? does anyone here have a turbo kit on their car? having a 6cylinder with say 95rwhp and boosting it to 260rwhp with a turbo... wont this cause the engine alot of harm over a period of time. it wouldnt be able to cope, i reckon go the mods mentioned above like exhaust extractors and diff. if u want to drive it everyday... if u want to use it to race than go a turbo.
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is it just me or is turbos a bad option?? does anyone here have a turbo kit on their car? having a 6cylinder with say 95rwhp and boosting it to 260rwhp with a turbo... wont this cause the engine alot of harm over a period of time. it wouldnt be able to cope, i reckon go the mods mentioned above like exhaust extractors and diff. if u want to drive it everyday... if u want to use it to race than go a turbo.
Something I have wondered about with the turbo 6, is do they spend the $7,000 on a turbo kit and bolt it up to an EA - ED with 220,000 kilometres +++++++++ on the clock?

If I was going to turbo an engine. I would be spending dollars on my crank, rods, bearings, pistons, etc just to stand up to that 10+ Pound of forced induction. How much are all these goodies cost on top of the turbo kit, add to that balancing, machine work, etc. It works out a lot more than the $7,000 spent on the tubo kit.

Or do people just toss it all on and wait for the engine to hand grenade?
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im pretty sure they get so excited about the thought of a turbo on their engine without actually knowing what it could do to it. i hear so many people say oh im getting it turbo'd and oh im gonna buy a turbo for it... i used to think that would be unreal but i actually found out of a friend who constantly says the only real power is from 8's! well i guess he is right but i spose if u have a factory turbo than that would be fine because the engine is designed to handle that amount of power. thats why the vl turbo is popular i spose. are they even that good? hehe... but yeah anwyay... wouldnt supercharging be a far better option being belt driven and not forced???
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Supercharging and Turbocharging are both forms of Forced Induction, no matter what you're using to spin the turbine you're still running boost.

An engine doesn't know much different if it's getting 10 pounds from a turbo or supercharger, it's still 10 pounds boost
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I agree with AUForte!

I say you dont turbo or supercharge unless you know what your up against!

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There is no substitution for cubes.
Plain and simple, but as said above, get the bottom end in check first, before sticking a turbo on it.

Turbo engines should be built as a package, not an after thought, and same goes for supercharging.

Take pot luck if you want, but I wouldnt risk it.

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