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Old 04-28-2003, 06:43   #1 (permalink)
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Chip 4 engine

Hi all,

I've heard about engine chips for performance, but I was wondering if there were "economy" chips out there? Or could I get a performance chip that technically uses less fuel coz I get more go out of the engine?

Obviously a performance-oriented chip would make the engine want to chew thru more juice to get the extra kWs, but if you want to drive at the same pace as before, I'm guessing you'd technically use less fuel...

Where could I find info about chips/injection systems/etc? Could there even be what I've called "economomy" chips especially for the E-series 5.0?

Any info would be great, thanks in advance.

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Old 04-28-2003, 07:04   #2 (permalink)
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The 5.0L falcon EEC is very effective management system. Using MAF and O2 sensors, AF ratios are kept very close to perfect nearly all the time. Electronically there is very little that can improve fuel economy or performance.
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So in other words a chip isn't the way to go... Well at least the standard setup is orright then, thanks EDXR8!

How about other methods, "old skool" methods, such as a different zhorst setup, air intake, extractors? I know these are obvious, but since I know f@rk all about them I thought I'd ask the easy questions :-)

My setup is totally stock :-(

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AU thermofans
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Contra 16x9 rims, rubber: 225(f)/245(r)
Custom cupholders
Chiptorque HP2 chip
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Old 04-29-2003, 00:22   #4 (permalink)
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You will get a good improvement in performance and economy with exhaust and extractors (extractors are the most important). Also look at a K&N air filter ($100) and EL XR8 air intake snorkle ($28). The E-series falcons really suck alot of juice. Mine use to get around 300km from a tank. My new engine with nearly twice the power seems to be getting around 400-500km (only had it running for 200km though).
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Initially 300km to a tank?!? Jeez I get around 500km!!!

You meantioned an EL XR8 snorkle... how about AU goodies? Considering the phenomenal increase in power (185kW EL to 220kW AUIII), would fuel consumption have jumped too? The T-series 5.6 is a shocker at 25L/100km!

Well I'll look into different types of extractors first, but I don't want to spend big bucks (more than a few hundred $$$... up to $500?) otherwise what's the point when its <mainly> for improved economy?

Thanks for all your info EDXR8

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Old 04-29-2003, 05:17   #6 (permalink)
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extractors for a 5 litre will be around $600-800? becuase a set of pacemakers for an I6 are $400-500 fitted..
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Hmm... $600-800 eh...

Bah, I might just water down the fuel LOL

I'll still check out all the options though (EL intake, etc)

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AU thermofans
Explorer intake manifold
Contra 16x9 rims, rubber: 225(f)/245(r)
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Chiptorque HP2 chip
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You can get 5.0L Pacemakers for around $400. Also, the AU snorkle doesn't fit, it hits the power steering pulley.
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Sounds to me like you should leave it alone.
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Sounds to me like you should leave it alone.
Hmm... I might just do that. Maybe keeping it stock is the best thing.

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AU thermofans
Explorer intake manifold
Contra 16x9 rims, rubber: 225(f)/245(r)
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