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Old 08-14-2004, 03:53   #1 (permalink)
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Creating a BA Mutant....

Okay hows this for an idea. I'm really liking my BA XR6 NA. Its cheap repayments, it performs well (the power to traction levels are stunning compared to other cars in the wet, basically only AWD cars can nail me off the line).

Anyway... the thought is at the moment to get an upgrade. To go from the standard 5speed manual (T5 argh) and non LSD back end to the new and improved 6speed manual (T56) and 3.73 LSD that is likely to be shipped with the F6/GT's.

I'd prefer to see this done by a Ford Dealership so it could be fully worked with ECU so the Diff and gearbox ratios could be modified so that the speedo is still accurate. Anyone any ideas about this? How about just getting the diff rebuilt from standard to 3.73 LSD. thats likely to be cheaper (and better?).

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Old 08-14-2004, 04:42   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Creating a BA Mutant....

The T56 in the yet to be BAII Falcons are still an unproved item. It has been in the Holden commodore for a few years now and the reports have not been that good. It all depends what/why you want to do this conversion for? Ford doing all the work for you alone will cost you a fortune. If you're talking of changing diff ratios and to a 6 speed box, I'm guessing you are looking for more launch off the line. I say you should save yourself the time and money, not worth it. If you were going to modify your NA XR6 to go quicker, why didn't you consider the XR6T? The cost of buying a NA new and now doing this conversion/modifications to make it go quicker would be the same if not less than what the XR6T would have cost you in the first place.

ps: I'm starting to worry about your "basically only AWD cars can nail me off the line" comment. It reminds me of a line by a one Darryl Kerrigan from the movie The Castle.
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Re: Creating a BA Mutant....

Might have a difficult time keeping pace with the minginator. I hear that thing nails 747's over the quarter.
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Might have a difficult time keeping pace with the minginator. I hear that thing nails 747's over the quarter.

In the wet you reckon? :) and i'm talking to legal speeds :)
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ps: I'm starting to worry about your "basically only AWD cars can nail me off the line" comment. It reminds me of a line by a one Darryl Kerrigan from the movie The Castle.
Something about dreaming? :)

In the dry my partners XR8 ute whips me every time. In the wet its about getting it down smoothly and with control - somethings thats very easy in the BA XR6 NA. :)

Anyway... i am thinking about upgrading to a XR6T, but if the T56 in the BAII gets rave reviews, well then i'd be interested in buying one through ford... just the $$$ are likely to be prohibative as you say. Just being curious thats all :)
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* Steering click (5th time)
* Brake Shudder (2nd time, and has the applied "Fix")
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In the wet you reckon? :) and i'm talking to legal speeds :)
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A conversion to a T56 won't leave you any change out of $10k from a Ford dealership.
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Okay hows this for an idea. I'm really liking my BA XR6 NA. Its cheap repayments, it performs well (the power to traction levels are stunning compared to other cars in the wet, basically only AWD cars can nail me off the line).

Anyway... the thought is at the moment to get an upgrade. To go from the standard 5speed manual (T5 argh) and non LSD back end to the new and improved 6speed manual (T56) and 3.73 LSD that is likely to be shipped with the F6/GT's.

I'd prefer to see this done by a Ford Dealership so it could be fully worked with ECU so the Diff and gearbox ratios could be modified so that the speedo is still accurate. Anyone any ideas about this? How about just getting the diff rebuilt from standard to 3.73 LSD. thats likely to be cheaper (and better?).

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While I've thought the same things myself, the others are right. A Ford dealer would sting you so hard to do it that it just wouldn't be cost effective. You'd be better off buying a Turbo.
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