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Old 05-05-2003, 21:18   #1 (permalink)
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confused Are ED's a good buy?

Hey all.

Looking at buying a mates ED. It seems to be well looked after and has 130k on the clock. ABS cruse p/s a/c etc. but just a falcon. all stock other than being dual fuel.

Are the ED's a good buy?

I currently drive a VL (no holden bagging please, i appreciate fords just as much). But i'm after a slightly newer car at the moment.

I've taken a couple of ED's for a drive and remember it was ok but I havent had a good look. I should do that this week to his.

Are there any common problems with these? I'm aware of the head gasket issues and I'll probably have to face that at some stage, but it doesnt bother me as I had to do that on the VL and its not that hard :)

What about the autos in them? BTR 85LE is it? I've heard mixed opinions about these but the general idea is that if serviced regularly they will last for 200,000km+.

He's put new tyres and shocks on recently and had it all serviced regularly (including the trans recently). Does $7000 sound like a good deal?


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Old 05-05-2003, 21:33   #2 (permalink)
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Sounds good to me but you might find a ef around if you look hard enough. Best thing is that you know the history and it really does have bugger all Km's on it. Head Gasket if it hasnt gone yet will most likely go in the next 50,000. The cars are great my Transmission was up close to 300,000 km and it was still fine. It also used to get a beating. Make sure you have a tranny cooler that will make it last alot longer and not to many stnad stills and you shall be allright. Ef/El thermo fans will quieten the down a bit and free up some horses. Some extractors and Exhaust will also open her up. I was getting around 600 - 650 Km from a full tank of juice Highway Km out of my ebII with all of the above mods. Thats will booting it every now and then also.

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Old 05-05-2003, 21:44   #3 (permalink)
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thanks for the reply, thats very helpful.

from memory he bought it from his uncle too so its history is known probably since new. i've known him for 2 years and the only thing i can remember going wrong was the trans gasket literally blowing and spewing the fluid all over the place... thankfully it was his garage and he saw it and didnt drive it, and had it towed to be fixed. :)

It'd stay stock for now but if the head went i'd then do a few mods.

But i'd HAVE to get a thermo and take off the clutch fan before summer. those motors sound horrible when the clutch is engaged. even the VL's clutch isnt that loud.. on a 40 degree day!

I'm taking a look tonight. Then i just have to sell the VL.. shouldnt be hard :)
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Yeah get the ED, then you can come out on our SA Cruise on Saturday 31st of May, it will be good to have more members come on our cruises, i mean even if u arent u are more than welcome, the more ford boys the merrier :D
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haha, regardless of what i do with the ED, i could always come in dads AU. its the only ford in the family right now.

i just drove the ED.. it was quite different from what i expected. yes it was smooth and ran quite well, hardly any difference on gas etc.. just doesnt 'feel' as i would have expected. it feels (in comparison to the VL) like im driving a big tank!

it seems to accelarate slightly quicker than the VL, especially up hills, but you hardly get any push in the seat like the VL does in its mid range.. but the ED did have much more torque off the line.


the other thing i found strange was the idle.. felt perfect from in the car, but on either gas or petrol it was a bit shakey looking under the bonnet or the exhaust tip.. it wasnt missing though. is that normal for the ED's? I remember reading on here most people can balance a 50c piece on them (like i can with the VL on a good day lol).

Also with the VL i have reco'd a lot of things, and what i noticed was the steering on the ED felt (believe it or not!!) more sloppy. it wasnt bad though, the VL was far worse before the reco rack. Also the ED made a bit of a grinding/crunching sound when winding on a bit of lock parking/reversing (like our AU does). is it one of those things you just ignore?

He's advertised it in the paper this weekend so we'll see how things go.. its given me a bit to think about.
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oh yeah overall i think i could adjust quite easily, the whole idea of buying it was not to get too obsessed with doing a car up.. dont really want to spend money on a car like i have been with the VL.. at least not yet.
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I've driven my friend's VL a couple of times, and it definitely feels like a smaller car to the EA. There are a few reasons for this:

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* the EA-ED driver's seat is on the extreme right with a large centre console allowing for the optional bench seat, which gives a feeling of spaciousness
* the stock suspension is generally on the soft side, and most people prefer to lower theirs. The car feels 100 times more nimble when this is done.

Regarding the steering noises, my friend's immaculate VS does that too - it must be a characteristic of the newer steering systems.
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i was just thinking, what final (Diff) gearing does the ED GLi have?? 2.92 or something like that?

it probably needs 3.45 gears like the VL to feel a bit more lively. from memory thats what the XR6 has too.. any idea what they cost to fit? hehe.
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yeah the VL sure is smaller.
mine has been lowered and has much tigher suspension than stock.

that and the gearing probably explains the main differences.
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My previous car was a 93 ED GLI Classic, I reckon it was a wonderfull car. Heaps comfortable, heaps reliable and went pretty quick. Invest $200 in a new radiator and I'm sure your head gasket will last a long time.
Is the ED you wanna buy an Fairmont ? If it is and it only has 130K on the clock, I reckon $7000 isn't too bad.
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