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Fordhead · 04-19-2003, 02:25

Knowing that a 450 odd kg load ( with driver etc ) is all I can carry in the XR8 ute , I reckon Ford should reconsider the rear end setup on these things.
Took it for a run down the back of Rye/Gunnamatta today and too much right foot out of slow ( 40 to 60 kph ) bends even in the dry resulted in sideways movement.
As much as I love laying the boot into it , I reckon winter time without any form of traction control is going to be hairy .

Just an observation ..

Rodderz · 04-19-2003, 03:48

Haha join the club!

Plenty of fun but also exercise caution...260kw and 500Nm in a leaf sprung ute is all nice n horn but you gotta be ready when it steps out....

xacoupe · 04-19-2003, 03:57

some guys just don't get it .... leaf springs and awsome torque just go together!!!! That's half the fun not knowing when you are going to have a little bit of a sideways excursion !

Live Fast .. Die Sideways??

Long Live LSUG(tm)

Milo Kerrigan · 04-19-2003, 03:58

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Originally posted by Rodderz

260kw and 500Nm in a leaf sprung ute is all nice n horn but you gotta be ready when it steps out....

Civic Roundabout anybody ????????? hehehe

Fordhead · 04-19-2003, 04:42

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Originally posted by xa-coupe
some guys just don't get it .... leaf springs and awsome torque just go together!!!! That's half the fun not knowing when you are going to have a little bit of a sideways excursion !

Live Fast .. Die Sideways??

Long Live LSUG(tm)

Maybe i'm getting old , but I can't say I wanna be going sideways at every set of lights and corner in the rain .
After driving a 450hp 351c XY ute for a few years , I sure know what upredictable is .

As I said , these things aren't made for carrying , so they might as well have whacked the full IRS arse end in the things .
More for drivability ( when wanted ) than predictability .

smciner1 · 04-19-2003, 05:41

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Originally posted by xa-coupe
some guys just don't get it .... leaf springs and awsome torque just go together!!!! That's half the fun not knowing when you are going to have a little bit of a sideways excursion !

Live Fast .. Die Sideways??

Long Live LSUG(tm)

What he said, you guys just have no sense of adventure.

Charliewool · 04-19-2003, 05:44

There is already TOO MUCH weight over the rear wheels in the ute range!.. & the hardtop makes it worse by about 80 kgs!...What's the saying about .."if it's too hot in the kitchen"?..

zetecr · 04-19-2003, 17:32

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Originally posted by Fordhead
...without any form of traction control is going to be hairy .

XR8 utes don't have traction control?? That's gonna require concentration! I hope for Ford's sake no-one sues for negligence after a P-plater goes off on an excursion into the trees...

xacoupe · 04-19-2003, 17:42

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Originally posted by Fordhead
Maybe i'm getting old , but I can't say I wanna be going sideways at every set of lights and corner in the rain .
After driving a 450hp 351c XY ute for a few years , I sure know what upredictable is .

As I said , these things aren't made for carrying , so they might as well have whacked the full IRS arse end in the things .
More for drivability ( when wanted ) than predictability .

I am getting older too .. maybe I am just not growing up though

Fordhead · 04-19-2003, 18:46

XA..
When driving the old XY ute , exercising throttle and brain control was a constant thing . I love being able to go sideways at the drop of a hat , thats why I bought the BA 8

But with the inception of IRS and traction control , it would have been good to be able to just click the switch off and drop into sideways mode . my point was seeing as it can carry bugger all anyway , they might as well have used the IRS end. I still would have bought it even if it could have only carried 200kgs. My tools and lockup box combined don't weigh that much .