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Old 07-26-2004, 19:39   #1 (permalink)
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What we would like to see.. (series II list)

BA Series II

XT
-4.0L increases to 190Kw through ECU changes (VCT programming)
-5.4L V8 increases to 230kw through ECU changes (VCT programming and rev limiter)
-Weight is reduced ~50Kg (alloy upper wishbones at front and alloy blade out back)
-Diffrent trim colours and pattern and Colours
-diffrent front bumper

Futura
-4.0L increases to 190Kw through ECU changes (VCT programming)
-5.4L V8 increases to 230kw through ECU changes (VCT programming and rev limiter)
-Weight is reduced ~50Kg (alloy upper wishbones at front and alloy supports out back)
-Diffrent trim colours and pattern and Colours
-diffrent front bumper
-Front side airbags standard
-Traction control

Fairmont
-4.0L increases to 190Kw through ECU changes (VCT programming)
-5.4L V8 increases to 230kw through ECU changes (VCT programming and rev limiter)
-Weight is reduced ~50Kg (alloy upper wishbones at front and alloy supports out back)
-Diffrent trim colours and pattern and Colours
-diffrent front bumper
-Additonal Noise insulation
-Power peddles standard

Fairmont Ghia
-4.0L increases to 195Kw through ECU changes (VCT programming)
-4.0L Turbo avalible 245Kw (with LSD)
-5.4L V8 increases to 235kw through ECU changes (VCT programming and rev limiter)
-Weight is reduced ~70Kg (alloy upper wishbones at front, alloy supports out back and new gearbox)
-6 speed ZF auto standard
-Premium audio now gets additional subwoofer (now 2 on the rear parcel shelf), PAL LCD, TV-tuner, diffrent colours/Font
-10 way power seats with 3 memory
-Various new switches and interior diffrences
-Diffrent trim colours and pattern and Colours (including a Ghia unique colour)
-Diffrent front bumper
-Additonal Noise insulation

Falcon XR6
-4.0L increases to 195Kw through ECU changes (VCT programming)
-Weight is reduced ~50Kg (alloy upper wishbones at front and alloy supports out back)
-Rear power windows standard
-Diffrent trim colours and pattern and Colours
-diffrent front bumper
-New rear spoiler shape
-6 speed manual and auto are optional

Falcon XR6 Turbo
-4.0L Turbo with 250Kw (various changes)
-6 speed Getrag manual transmission
-6 speed ZF auto optional
-Weight is reduced ~70Kg (alloy upper wishbones at front, alloy supports out back and new gearbox)
-New rear spoiler shape
-6 way power seats
-Diffrent trim colours and pattern and Colours
-Diffrent front bumper

XR8
-5.4l DOHC V8 BOSS with 270Kw (ecu, exaust, intake)
-6 speed getrag Manual transmission
-6 speed ZF auto transmission
-Weight is reduced ~70Kg (alloy upper wishbones at front, alloy supports out back and new gearbox)
-New rear spoiler shape
-6 way power seats
-Diffrent trim colours and pattern and Colours
-Diffrent front bumper

New options
-Xenon lighting (leveling/washing)
-Premium audio (2 woofers, PAL TFT, tuner)
-18" wheels on Ghia
-Premium brakes optional on more cars (same up front, vented territory discs and calipers out back)
-6 speed gearboxes on some cars

6 Speed auto will not be avalible until 2005. Until then cars XR6T, XR8 and Ghia gets DVD navigation standard until gearbox arrives.

Update LWB cars will not be avalible until 2005 but will look something like.

Fairlane Ghia
-4.0L increases to 195Kw through ECU changes (VCT programming)
-4.0L Turbo avalible 245Kw (with LSD) (G245)
-5.4L V8 increases to 235kw through ECU changes (VCT programming and rev limiter)
-Weight is reduced ~70Kg (alloy upper wishbones at front, alloy supports out back and new gearbox)
-Premium audio now gets additional subwoofer (now 2 on the rear parcel shelf), PAL LCD, TV-tuner, diffrent colours/Font
-10 way power seats with 3 memory
-Various new switches and interior diffrences
-Diffrent trim colours and pattern and Colours (including a Ghia unique colour)
-Diffrent front bumper
-Additonal Noise insulation
-Membership to FRVC (Ford refined vechical club various organised activities, offers, specials, theater tickets, sporting events, concerts etc)

LTD; Everything Ghia has got plus
-V8 SOHC standard XR8 engine optional (in special varient)
-front and rear warmers
-diffrent seats with full leather
-Xenon lighting
-Voice command
-soft shut boot
-Unique 16" wheels, 17" NCO, 18" optional
-In seat LCD's for rear passengers digital TV/DVD.
-Additional noise insulation in doors, roof, boot, pillars
-Real wood trimming with LTD embossing
-Classic dash guages
-several interior options inc Brass/chrome style trimming
-4 zone climate control
-rear electric seats
-Premium brakes
-Bluetooth support
-Glazed and tinted windows all round
-Front/Rear cooled/heated cupholders

FPV cars
-six speed tranmissions (auto avalible 2005)
-Premium audio standard
-Bigger optional brakes (no longer brembo)
-19" wheels
-Typhoon with 280Kw
-FPV cars gain 5Kw 295, supercharger on the way
-additional weight loss options avalible (inc aluminium bonnet (delete option), mag wheels, magnesium replacement parts expensive tho)
-New interior trimming
-LED brake, indicators, parking, reverse lights, including a varible intensity brake light, stomp on it hard and its diffrent from just touching it
-Optional underbody aero kit
-Optional track suspension option

Ute
-Mostly the same and get comparible upgrades as per other models
-Premium audio puts subsonic actuators in the back of the seats in utes
-Remote locking tonneau avalible
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Old 07-26-2004, 21:03   #2 (permalink)
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Re: What we would like to see.. (series II list)

What I would like to see for BAII...

XT:
4.0litre increases to 200kW 400Nm through ECU & intake/extractors changes.
4.0litre E-Gas increased to 165kW 365Nm through ECU & fuel mapping tuning
5.4litre 220kW SOHC V8 dumped in favour of 2005 Mustang's 224kW 407Nm 4.6 SOHC 24v V8
Weight reduced as much as possible with alloy suspension components
New colours & trim offerings
Slight exterior changes on front and rear of car (very subtle, ie: shinier headlights, slightly blacked-out tailights)

Futura:
Option of 224kW SOHC 24v 4.6 V8 introduced into range
Subtle exterior changes (ie: headlights, tailights, sligtly different wheels)
Traction Control standard
Same weight reduction as XT

Fairmont:
4.0litre increases to slightly above XT spec, 205kW 410Nm, through further ECU modification
4.0litre E-Gas Introduced, and tuned to 170kW 370Nm (slightly above XT spec)
4.6litre SOHC 24v V8 tuned from 224kW 407Nm to 235kW 425Nm (above XT spec) through exhaust, intake & introduction of Dual VCT
Same weight redutcion as XT & Futura
More interior trim options
Slight subtle exterior changes (wheels, headlights etc)

Fairmont Ghia:
Same engines as in Fairmont
Same weight reduction as XT, Futura & Fairmont
Premium Sound Standard
DVD Satellite-Navigation Standard
Slight exterior changes to differntiate better from Fairmont, ie: individual wheels, front grille etc

Falcon XR6:
4.0litre engine updated to 230kW 440Nm with cam & head work, and a general re-work of all engine internals
Weight reduced by replacing of suspension components with alloy items, and all unecessary weight adders
Slightly smaller rear spoiler then XR6 Turbo, and different wheels
New colour & trim options
3.73:1 final drive ratio, 3.45:1 auto, LSD

Falcon XR6 Turbo:
4.0litre Turbo engine updated to 270kW 550Nm (F6 Typhoon spec)
XR8's Tremec TR3650 5-speed manual
Weight reduced by replacing suspension components with alloy items, and all unecessary weight adders removed.
New colour & trim options
3.73:1 final drive ratio manual, 3.45:1 auto, LSD

Falcon XR8:
5.4litre 260kW 500Nm "Boss260" dumped in favour of 291kW 528Nm SVT Cobra's 4.6 Supercharged DOHC 32v V8
Tremec T56 6-speed manual
Weight reduced by replacing current suspension components with alloy ones and removing any unecessary weight adders
XR Premium Brakes as standard
Individual alloy wheels
New exterior colour options
New trim options
3.73:1 final drive ratio manual, 3.45:1 auto, LSD

FPV:

F6 Typhoon:
4.0litre Turbo engine worked to 300kW 545Nm VIA revised fuel system, head, cams, boost, ECU
Getrag 6-speed manual
Five-Speed Tiptronic Auto (based off four-speed unit)
Unique 18" wheels.. 18 x 8.0" front with 255/40 ZR18s and 18 x 10" rear with 295/35 ZR18s
Unique interior dress and exterior dress
355mm front and 330mm rear brakes as stanard
4.11:1 final drive ratio manual, 3.73:1 auto

GT:
5.4litre 290kW 520Nm "Boss290" V8 dumped in favour for a worked 365kW 665Nm version of 4.6 SVT S/C V8 through revised exhaust system, Whipple Industries 2300AX supercharger to replace Eaton M110
Getrag 6-speed manual
Five-Speed Tiptronic Auto (based off four-speed unit)
Unique 18" wheels.. 18 x 8.0" front with 255/40 ZR18s and 18 x 10" rear with 295/35 ZR18s
Unique interior dress
355mm front and 330mm rear brakes as stanard
4.11:1 final drive ratio manual, 3.73:1 auto, LSD
GT-P:
Same changes as above

GT-HO PhaseV:
5.0 "Cammer" V8, supercharged with Whipple Industries 2300AX blower, for 450kW 820Nm.
Getrag 6-speed manual
Five-Speed Tiptronic Auto (based off four-speed unit)
Unique 19" wheels... 19 x 9.0 inch front with 265/40 ZR19s, 19x11.5" rear with 335/30 ZR19s
Unique exterior
Unique Interior
Unique colour & trim options
Unique 375mm front 340mm rear Cermanic Brembo brakes standard
Unique Alloy light-weight adjustable suspension
4.11:1 final drive ratio manual, 3.73:1 auto, LSD

Fairlane Sportsman:
Fairlane based HSV Grange Competitor
Same 365kW 665Nm 4.6 S/C DOHC 32v V8 as in GT & GT-P
Six-Speed ZF Automatic from Jaguar XJR (only transmission offered)
Unique 18" wheels.. 18 x 8.0" front with 255/40 ZR18s and 18 x 10" rear with 295/35 ZR18s
Unique luxurious but sporty interior
Unique preteige + sporty looking exterior
355mm front and 330mm rear brakes as stanard
4.11:1 final drive ratio, LSD

Ford LWB changes..

Fairlane Ghia:
Fairmont Ghia spec 6cyl and V8
Five-Speed Tiptronic Auto
Standard Premium Audio
Standard DVD Satellite Navigation
Slightly improved interior trim options

LTD:
Same engines as above
Six Speed ZF Auto from Jaguar XJR
Standard DVD player with headrest mounted rear screens
8 airbags standard (4 for rear passengers, 4 for front passengers)
Slightly imrpoved interior trim options
Unique grille and wheels

Fairlane "G270"
XR6 Turbo spec motor
Five-Speed Tiptronic Auto
All else identical to Fairlane
XR6 Turbo size wheels and XR6 Turbo spec brakes
3.73:1 final drive ratio, LSD

Ute's carry same updates mechanically, exterior (if applicable) and interior (if applicable).

Boy I wish FPV did this for their models.. and they made XRs like these ones.

To bad they'll never do it... :(
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$1,000,000 says that if Ford didnt have the 5.4, and brought in the 4.6 for the BA, everybody would be disappointed with the 4.6, and asking for the 5.4!!!!!! - The good thing about this bet is I can't be proven wrong...
Good thing we let the Ford engineers test different gear ratios and engines because if the fans just pulled numbers out of a hat like 4.11:1 i am sure we would all be driving around in pieces of crap...
Anyhow this is all in fun, so i will make my wishlist

4L 200kw/400Nm sounds good to me with 6 manual and 6 auto
4L turbo XR6T, Fairmont Ghia 280kw/ 480Nm
4L Turbo Typhoon 360kw / 570Nm
(5.4 gets bored to 6.0 or 6.2) 4V across Ford Range option 310kw/ 540Nm
GT/GT-P/Pursuit/FPV Fairlane 370kw/ 620Nm
GTHO 6.2L with 100kw electric motor 470kw / 1000Nm

features/options: what they have now, plus - (on suited models)
Bi-xenons, brake by wire, steer by wire, stability control, double glazed windows, dual rear DVD screens with Digital TV, integrated iPod, Mp3 compatible CD... that will do for this model upgrade...
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I remember reading somewhere that the 5.4 computer won't let it rev out, & that peak performance for a hotted-up 5.4 would actually occur after the cutout! Then again, with the engine's dimensions, I guess revving the crap out of one would not do it any good (limits to what the material can handle).

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Gees you guys dont ask for much!
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4L Turbo Typhoon 360kw / 570Nm
360kW is great and all, but a piss weak 570Nm? 360kW 570Nm is 482hp 420ftlbs. I'd expect to see 482hp 482ftlbs AT LEAST from that engine... That's 653Nm.. so 360kW/650Nm at a minimum.

Why would people be dissapointed with the 5.4? Consider the blown 4.6 can rev harder then our GT, and makes more power stock (291kW 528Nm is a claim.. its more like 320kW 590Nm in reality).

370kW 620Nm in the GT? 496hp is great, but only 457ftlbs? Bah (you must know by now how much I love torque )

Other then that, I don't mind your ideas hehe. Give me the helm of FoMoCo, and I'd execute my plan. I'll bet you the 4.6 would have been much more impressive then the lacksture gutless heavy inefficient 5.4 then the gave us. You got $1,000,000 to bet? I don't, but I'd bet you $10 lol.

4.11:1 in my cars is only with the 6 speeds, and with 6 gears, 4.11:1 is quite useable. Consider that the HSV GTS has 3.91:1 in its 6spd and 6th gear isn't what I'd call useable. You have less top speed in 6th, and as has often been commented, you're better off driving it as a 5 speed. All the five speed cars would have 3.73s.. and 3.45s in the four-speeds. 3.23 would be an optional tall gear for cruiser type people etc. Give me the helm of FoMoCo and I'd execute my plan. Then I'd ask you again, is your 4.6litre 365kW 665Nm Supercharged GT that runs low 12s/high 11s stock, and can be made ALOT faster for very cheap, and revs passed 6000rpm.. is it dissapointing? Or your 450kW 820Nm GT-HO... 5.0 S/C "Cammer" engine. I doubt anybody would be dissapointed by such a car, and I think even though current GT owners defend their mediocre Boss290 to end, they'd jump at the chance to own a M5 & E55 stomping FPV GT.
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Good thing we let the Ford engineers test different gear ratios and engines because if the fans just pulled numbers out of a hat like 4.11:1 i am sure we would all be driving around in pieces
Well, Ford engineers aren't known for their great decisions... maybe if they replaced all their engineers with Mercedes/AMG ones or Porsche engineers, I'd let them work on it without interference

BTW: I'm not trying to argue.. however, I will bet you $10 that the 4.6 S/C V8 would have been a much better idea then the Boss290 POS. No offense intended to anyone who actually owns a Boss290 powered car, I just do believe FPV could have done ALOT better then this engine combo
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But whats the point in deciding diff ratios without first knowing gearbox ratios, engine power and torque curves? Then base it on theory, then back it up with physical proof - not every 6 spd box is the same... Gee your not asking for much torque there steffo... but i like it! hehe
Ya gotta love my GTHO hybrid idea.... time for some real muscle without a sacrifice in fuel economy
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i would actually say no to 18" wheels on anything bar the XR/FPV models. 17's can be expensive enough as it is - the Ghia is targeted to a different age bracket than the XR's are, and performance as such is not the main focus of the Ghia - its more for luxury cruising - not lightning fast times.

And remember that all of this costs MAJOR $$$ to develop. Ultimately the decisions on what BA2 brings will be determined by the budget Ford is willing to spend, and what THEIR customer surveys and market information decides is what the consumer wants - not what is posted on a forum like this.
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oh by the way, wasnt the GTHO phase V an XD that never made it to production, and i am pretty sure there was a Phase VIII EA.... because of all this, they should ditch the "Phase" names... otherwise they really wont know where to start off again, and Phase 12 sounds dumb unless its a V12...
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